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Amazon is buying Whole Foods

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by The Big Ragu, Jun 16, 2017.

  1. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    No stories yet. Just found this: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion

    This is going to be big. Amazon has wanted to dominate food and was trying a number of things. They are going to use this as a launching pad to try to take over that space. Amazon has such great scale. They have a bundle of cash to try to do things like this.
     
  2. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    And Walmart is buying Bonobos for $310M to supplement buying Moosejaw earlier this year.
     
  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Yes, this is going to be a war of two heavyweights if it plays out the way Amazon likely wants: Amazon vs. Wal-Mart (which currently is dominating the food space).

    You saw a small salvo over the last few months when Amazon announced that it would accept food stamps and it was going to sell a prime membership at a discount to anyone on a government assistance program.

    Those two are gearing up for war, I suspect. The smaller grocers that trade publicly are getting hammered on the news. It's probably an overreaction, but groceries are a very low margin business, and the scale Amazon potentially can bring to it will squeeze those margins even farther.

    Consumers might end up being winners, if Amazon can make big inroads into that space.
     
  4. Hermes

    Hermes Well-Known Member

    Is Amazon likely to make Whole Foods a more affordable, shoppable option? Because I find both its clientele and its prices to be kinda obnoxious.
     
  5. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I think you have that sized up correctly. Whole Foods has been struggling. Just last month, it did serious changes to its board of directors, brought in a new CFO and laid out cost cuts. It also had been trying to shift more into its 365 brand, including lower priced 365 stores, to try to attract back some of the customers it was losing due to price.

    I think from Amazon's perspective, they probably aren't buying Whole Foods as you know it, as much as they are buying a huge, already established retail network. Whole Foods has more than 450 stores. It is hard to build that from scratch. Amazon can now come in with the technology it has been testing to try to cut costs, and then use its massive scale to turn their entry into a margin war so they can try to take more and more market share.
     
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  6. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member



    It could well happen, but running physical retail locations when you haven't before isn't a gimmie putt.
     
  7. Hermes

    Hermes Well-Known Member

    Think of what Twitter would've looked like had it existed during the AOL-Time Warner merger.
     
  8. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    2020 (or '24): Zuckerberg v. Bezos
     
  9. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    It's a big question, for sure.

    Amazon has been testing stores where when you take stuff off the shelf, it automatically gets added to your tab, and when you leave the store, there is an auto-payment, based on what you took. They also may try a hybrid model of some sort that uses Whole Foods' network of stores as the infrastructure for a massive food delivery service that dominates the space. You may end up having the option to drive to the local store that has the best prices due to Amazon's scale. ... or place your order online and have it delivered to you at low (or no) cost. There can be monthly food delivery services that give more "wholesale" type prices, I'd guess.

    There is a lot that can go wrong in execution, though. This is all predicated on Amazon being able to squeeze costs through scale out of what is already a very, very low-margin business.
     
  10. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Aldi announced a huge expansion earlier in the week, partially in response to Lidl coming to the US. If Amazon's gonna do a cheaper, easier Whole Foods and the Germans are going to grab even more of the low end, somebody in the middle's gonna get hurt.
     
  11. Hermes

    Hermes Well-Known Member

    I'd be scared to death of a toddler in a store that just charged my credit card automatically.

    "You grabbed eight cans of caviar and hid them behind the watermelon? Do you know what you've done? We can't afford the mortgage this month now."
     
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  12. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    Yup. Saw this yesterday. (This meaning Kroger's earnings guidance, not this story in particular.)

    Kroger Just Sneezed-What Does It Mean For Supermarkets?
     
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