All-purpose, running Geek thread (formerly Battlestar Galactica thread)

Venom is going to be the worst Marvel movie of them all. Although technically its Sony.

 

"Elektra" will be tough to beat for that dishonor.

 

I never watched the whole thing, but is it really worse than the Ghost Rider sequel, the Fantastic Four reboot or Howard the Duck?

 

The first Ghost Rider movie stunk on ice, too.
So did the FF and FF2. Both terrible.
And the two Hulk movies.
And the Wolverine origin movie, and the Wolverine in Japan movie.

 

The first Ghost Rider was bad, but the sequel was even worse.

I didn't mind Incredible Hulk, but the Ang Lee mess really was awful.

The first two Fantastic Four movies were not great, but they aren't nearly as bad as the reboot, which is right there with Elektra as the worst Marvel movie pending Venom.

 

Howard the Duck is fucking awesome.

 

What's the cutoff for inclusion on bad Marvel movies?
The 1994 version of Fantastic Four, Reb Brown, Dolph Lundgren and David Hasselhoff would all like to know.

 

Good point. I'm not sure the 1994 version of Fantastic Four should count because it wasn't actually meant to be released at all. All three Punisher movies are pretty bad. The Captain America with Reb Brown was also truly awful.

I've heard people refer to the first X-Men movie as the start of the modern era of movies based on Marvel comics. Maybe it would make more sense to use that as the line, which would cut off the ones you mentioned and Howard the Duck.

 

That's about right, although I'd back it up two years to 1998 and Blade. X-Men was the first blockbuster, but Blade was really the first successful Marvel movie and helped them move away from the B-level and TV movie dreck they'd produced to that point.

 

That also puts it at 20 years and Blade was pretty good. So we could say that Venom looks like a contender for the worst Marvel movie in the post-Blade era. I would still list Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance, Elektra, and Fan4stic Four (the reboot) as top contenders. X-Men Origins: Wolverine earned much of the criticism it gets, especially for the horrible version of Deadpool, but that movie wasn't without merit. I hated the way they made the character move, but I actually liked Liev Schreiber's performance as Sabertooth and the opening montage was excellent. And as bad as Deadpool was with his mouth stitched closed, Ryan Reynolds was actually pretty good in the early part of the movie.

 

I almost put the FF reboot as the worst, and I had totally forgotten the horrible GR sequel. Blocked it from my memory probably. Howard the Duck was bad, but I give it points for the nostalgia factor. The only thing Elektra had going for it was Jennifer Garner in the Elektra costume.

 

Any love ... er hate ... for Ben Affleck's Dare Devil?