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Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Bruhman, Sep 12, 2007.

  1. Bruhman

    Bruhman Active Member

    Coming up in the business, I was taught that "All-American" was incorrect, that the proper usage of that honor is All-America.

    I never understood or agreed with that. I thought the "n" at the end sounded better and made more sense.

    I get it now. The old-timer was right. Players are honored on, say, all-New York or all-Florida teams, not all-New Yorker or all-Floridian teams. The same logic we apply to a state's best players should apply to the country's best.

    However, somewhere between my disagreeing with "All-America" and coming to accept it as correct, it seems that I'm seeing "All-American" more and more. I see it all over the place and it's beginning to grate on me.

    Some so-called "All-Americans" might not even be citizens! It's All-America!

    Thanks for letting me get that off my chest. I feel better...

    ... until the next time I see "All-American."

  2. Rockbottom

    Rockbottom Well-Known Member

    Flip to your AP stylebook for the answer. To summarize: the AP puts out an "All-America" team, on which players are "All-America selections". All the rest of 'em are "All-Americans".

  3. Bruhman

    Bruhman Active Member

    all the rest of them are all-americans?

    all the rest of whom?
  4. MCbamr

    MCbamr Member

    "All-America" when used as an adjective. "Johnny was named to the All-American team."

    "All-American" when used as a noun. "I heard Johnny became an All-American."
  5. joe king

    joe king Active Member

    You're correct, but you have a typo in your example.

    Johnny made the All-America team, or Johnny is an All-America tight end.

    But Johnny is an All-American, or the Hedgehogs have three All-Americans on the offensive line.
  6. txsportsscribe

    txsportsscribe Active Member

    beating a dead horse alert...

    ... shouldn't it be all-u.s. america?
  7. Chi City 81

    Chi City 81 Guest

  8. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    So do I have an All-America case of the red ass or an All-American case of the red ass?
  9. SoCalDude

    SoCalDude Active Member

    Red ass is red ass whether you're an American or not.
  10. MCbamr

    MCbamr Member

    good catch, joe king :)
  11. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Of course now we have to say someone is a Football Bowl Subdivision All-American.

    Thanks, NCAA!
  12. MU_was_not_so_hard

    MU_was_not_so_hard Active Member

    I was looking at the Nicholls State web site and in their SID's game story from their win over Rice, they referred to Rice as a member of the NCAA Division I Football Bowl Subdivision.
    And they say it clunkers down a sentence. ::)
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