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A Speeding Question

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Batman, Nov 22, 2014.

  1. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    This was a new one for me, and I can't seem to find much definitive information through Google searches, so perhaps the SJ illuminati can shed some light (with the caveat that this might vary from state to state, of course).

    A few days ago I got a ticket for going 57 in a 45 -- while I was in sight of the 55 mph sign. The area I was clocked in is about a quarter-mile stretch of 45 mph zone, which I was exiting. The cop was coming down the other side of the road and, I guess, clocked me, made a U-Turn and ran me down.
    Now, I'd always heard that there's a buffer zone on either side of the sign, maybe a couple of hundred feet or yards, where you're fine. Is that true, or does the speed limit start at the sign and that's that?

    If I'd have been busted in a traditional speed trap, where I was coming out of the higher zone and into the lower, it would suck but I could accept it. Getting a ticket when you're accelerating into the higher zone from the lower and you can literally see the sign seems ridiculous, and I'm thinking of fighting the ticket. Just wondering if I have a case or if I'd get to court and the judge would tell me tough titty, pay the damn fine.
     
  2. WhiskeyRiver

    WhiskeyRiver New Member

    I was instructed in Driver's Ed, a hundred years ago, that the sign was more or less like the goal line in football -- if you haven't crossed the plane, you're not in the zone. In other words, if you're doing 46 an inch before you've passed the 55 sign, you're speeding.
     
  3. Jake_Taylor

    Jake_Taylor Well-Known Member

    That's always going to depend on the judge. If you have the time you should go to court and give it a shot.
     
  4. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

    I agree. Go to court and take your chances. I've sat in Maryland traffic courts and heard judges give leeway in situations like this. Plus, you might get lucky and the officer not show up, and your case gets dismissed.
     
  5. spikechiquet

    spikechiquet Well-Known Member

    Always...ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS fight a traffic ticket.
    And when you go the first time and they try to downgrade it on the spot, they just want your money...don't do it! Fight it! Always worth it.
    Cops hand out tickets like Tic-Tacs. They just assume you will be too busy or scared to fight it. It's practically free money for the county, don't hand them free moola.
    *Yes, I hate cops.
     
  6. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Fixed.

    Wife got a ticket while we were vacationing in Florida, en route home. Was not about to travel 735 miles to have our day in court.
     
  7. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    There are some exceptions, of course. Otherwise, fight it. I've even had cops tell me during the stop to plead not guilty and go to court, just to get the reduction.
     
  8. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    In this case, if you were a quarter-mile away, what would happen if you drove until you were past the sign? To use the prior analogy, what if you cross the goal line? You're only talking about another 15-20 seconds.
     
  9. Tarheel316

    Tarheel316 Well-Known Member

    I don't know if this still holds true but in South Carolina I remember that if you see for instance a 55 mph sign, the speed limit is 55 beginning with the exact location of the sign, or post to post as one of my law enforcement friends put it.

    In North Carolina, you supposedly have 10 feet to slow down once you encounter a lower speed limit sign.

    As far as fighting tickets, I'd say yes. I've had two tickets in the last three years, 70 in a 55 and an unsafe pass. Got a lawyer both times and a plea of improper equipment was successfully entered both times. Still had to pay to fine. Lawyer cost $100. But no driver's license points and the real biggee was no insurance points.
     
  10. X-Hack

    X-Hack Well-Known Member

    In my state (Mass.), pretty much every traffic ticket from out of state - speeding or otherwise - will result in points on your license and higher insurance. So economically it's worth it to hire a local lawyer who deals with traffic tickets to show up and plead it down to faulty equipment or something similar. The reduced fine and the attorney fee is still cheaper than paying higher insurance rates. Had to do this twice - once for a speed trap outside of Boone NC and once for a bullshit ticket on the Garden State Parkway (I drifted a foot into the lane next to me and back without signaling). In the latter case the cop even wrote me up for something ticky tack that wouldn't result in points in NJ, trying to cut me a break, not realizing that it wouldn't help me because it would give me points in Mass.
     
  11. expendable

    expendable Well-Known Member

    No lie. The lawyer most people get for traffic tickets in Boone is named Tom Speed.
     
  12. Rusty Shackleford

    Rusty Shackleford Active Member

    10 feet? Going from a 60 mph zone to a 50 mph zone, that 10 feet probably buys you about .00001 seconds.
     
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