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A Shot Across The Bow

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Fenian_Bastard, Jan 13, 2007.

  1. http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53743

    Uh, John, between this and the surge, you've kinda got a problem.
  2. Mighty_Wingman

    Mighty_Wingman Active Member

    Wishful thinking. Dobson's one voice in a big crowd, and McCain has support from plenty of other Christian leaders. Plus, odds are the party establishment jumps on his bandwagon to stop Romney, whom they think is unelectable.

    Dobson and some others may oppose McCain now, but when it comes down to McCain and the Democratic nominee -- even if it isn't Hillary -- the Christian Right won't have a hard time deciding which candidate to support.

    But keep telling yourself 2008 will be your lucky year. The higher you get your hopes up, the funnier it'll be.

    (By the way, the poster formerly known as dullatron still owes me a steak dinner from the '04 election. If you're reading this, be ashamed!)
  3. D-Backs Hack

    D-Backs Hack Guest

    The Christian Right really was a force in 2006, wasn't it? This is James Dobson's pathetic attempt at gumming the works for the presumed GOP front-runner, lest he becomes even more irrelevant than he is now.

    As for 2008, it should be noted that Ohio, which no Republican has won the presidency without carrying, elected Democrats by landslides to the top three statewide elections (governor, secretary of state, Senator) on the ballot last November.

    I suggest the GOP concentrate on defeating an incumbent Democratic congressman or governor before talking shit about winning the White House in '08.
  4. sportschick

    sportschick Active Member

    The Republicans have FUBARed themselves in Ohio for a while with all the scandals. Some fairly OK Republicans, including one I voted for the first time he ran for the Senate, got turned out in the purge.
  5. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    Sorry off-topic ... but what is wrong with the second sentence?

    And, back on-topic ... Don't sell Dobson's influence short. Some would argue he's passed Robertson and Falwell as the leading voice of the rapture right. His Colorado Springs minions will follow suit.

    However, I agree that whoever the GOP nominates, Dobson will be back on board and will bring the lemmings along.
  6. Just an early indication that McCain '08 is not the lead-pipe his acolytes believe he is.
    If the surge goes bad. he's cooked, because he's its only public face, and the really wingnuttier parts of the base still don't like him.
  7. Mystery_Meat

    Mystery_Meat Guest

    Eh, the Dems went 0-for-America against Republican incumbents in 1994, and their presidental candidate seemed to do okay for himself two years later.
  8. Freelance Hack

    Freelance Hack Active Member

    An FM radio station's frequency can't end in an even number.
  9. D-Backs Hack

    D-Backs Hack Guest

    Yeah, and after that election, I didn't hear many Democrats claiming that the results didn't matter, 1996 was a slam dunk.

    Even in '94, the Democrats picked up three open House seats previously held by the GOP. Not only did the Republicans fail to beat a Democratic incumbent in '06, not one previously Dem open seat flipped.

    Yet, to hear some people talk, President McCain is a lock, even with no resolution in sight to a war that he is married to. Makes no sense.

    I will say this, though: If McCain gets the Bush 2000 treatment from the shit-for-brains Washington press corps -- and early indications are he's going to get it, super-sized -- he's got a really good chance of winning.
  10. Angola!

    Angola! Guest

    Really? Why not?
  11. OTD

    OTD Well-Known Member

    So there's separation between them. They start at 88.1 and end at 107.9. [/formerdj]
  12. PopeDirkBenedict

    PopeDirkBenedict Active Member

    Dobson can't be liking his options in the GOP for 2008. His choices are (1) McCain, a man who is an uneasy truce with the Religious Right and whom Dobson can't count on to carry his water or (2) Guiliani, whose social policies aren't that far removed from Hillary or (3) Romney, a man who says all the right things, but is a recent convert to the cause (see the YouTube video of clips from his 1994 debate with Teddy) and who is a member of a religion that Dobson's audience believes is just as cultish and nutty as Scientology. And while those three men jockey for position, there is a massive drop from No. 3 to No. 4.

    Even among the wannabes, only Huckabee and Brownback would be acceptable to Dobson. Brownback doesn't stand a chance -- he is a nice guy who excites no one. Huckabee has some potential to be the candidate from the right who would have some personal appeal (has some charisma, weight loss story is popular), but he isn't raising the money and creating the political infrastructure necessary. Even a guy like Howard Dean was making all the required trips four years ago and putting himself into a position to catch fire. Huckabee seems to believe in spontaneous combustion -- which does not happen in presidential politics.
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