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a reporter's reporter

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by henryhenry, Nov 7, 2006.

  1. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry, I will type more slowly for you.



    I can use a larger font if it will help.
  2. awriter

    awriter Active Member

    A couple things.
    Not all young men see women as sex objects and vice versa, even in this age of equal rights. And I realize there's no law prohibiting anyone from having consensual sex. And I don't think consensual sex is "twisted." If Canzano does, that's his opinion.
    Beyond that, I think he was making a similar point to the one I made in the previous post, which is these players are inviting trouble. And the episodes involving Randolph and the Jazz are examples of that. I don't think it's a stretch to say that too many players treat women as nothing more than sex objects, and it leads to trouble for them, whether they're breaking the law or not.
  3. jgmacg

    jgmacg Guest

    I made no assumptions. I asked a rhetorical question. Why not go back and read the post in which I originally posed the question? Thanks.
  4. jgmacg

    jgmacg Guest

    I completely agree. It's a serious subject worthy of serious discussion. I just don't think the story about the blonde is part of that discussion.
  5. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Agree Alma - there was a beat writer back in the early 80's covering the Yankees for The NY Post. It seemed like he was more interested in reporting the escapades of Billy Martin and crew than reporting on the games. Yankee fans much prefered reading about the games and not the off the field stuff.
  6. henryhenry

    henryhenry Member

    oh, did you poll them? that's a broad generality.
  7. blondebomber

    blondebomber Member

    This interview reads sleazier than his work.
  8. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    Are you the blonde?
  9. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Well most broads liked to be polled. I've polled a few in my time.
  10. awriter

    awriter Active Member

    The blonde story is the perfect example of that! Do you have some personal issue with Canzano or The Oregonian? Do you work for the Blazers or represent any of the players?
  11. blondebomber

    blondebomber Member

    Yes. I fuck NBA players but my real passion is kibbutzing with sportswriters.
  12. jgmacg

    jgmacg Guest

    The level of paranoia on this thread is breathtaking. I don't know Canzano, don't read the Oregonian, don't watch basketball, don't have a vested interest here in anything other than the practice and craft of journalism.

    I first posted on this thread because it struck me fishy that 24 hours after Canzano got spanked by his own paper, a new thread begins, referring to him as a "reporter's reporter." Okay, sometimes folks come here to blow their own horn, or rehabilitate their own image, or simply defend themselves behind a screen name. Perfectly fair given the nature of SportsJournalists.com.

    Every post I've made here refers simply to the interview he gave. I clicked the link, read the Q & A, and posted my thoughts about it. That Canzano knows how to use a Reverse Phone Directory, or file an FOIA request, or has sources in his own community is admirable, but not, to me, necessarily worthy of note. As others have said in this thread, all those things are, or should be, pretty standard weapons in a reporter's arsenal.

    And I agree completely with Alma when I question the use of those weapons in service of the story about the blonde.

    Again, that an individual makes a consensual decision to accompany a player to a hotel and have sex with him, does not, to me, rise to the level of news. Nor is it a strong illustration of Canzano's larger argument about the "twisted culture" of the NBA. Here's the quote from his column:

    The next day, just before tip-off, a taxi pulled up to the steps of the Rose Garden. A twentysomething blonde slipped out of the taxi and headed toward Will Call, where she collected a complimentary ticket and came through the turnstiles.

    She told me she had been flown from Seattle to Portland by one of the Lakers players and had spent the night in his hotel room. She then explained, "The hotel doors of the other players were swinging open and closed all night there were so many different women coming in and out."

    It's a scene that goes down all the time in the twisted culture of the NBA.

    The NBA, may, in fact, be an alarmingly twisted culture. But one woman making an individual decision to have consensual sex with a ballplayer is hardly the evidence Canzano needs to prove a larger pattern, a cultural pattern, of disrespect to women. That it sounds like several women made the same consensual decision that night in that hotel in fact undermines Canzano's own argument.

    And as to whether or not this kind of promiscuity might "invite trouble", as you suggest, I would say of course it does - in some cases. But is it our job to write about what "might" happen? Or should we be writing about what has happened? Again, consensual sex is not news.

    I'm not disagreeing with his premise. Professional and collegiate athletes in sports of all kinds in all markets show us time and again that there's an embedded disrespect for women in the male-dominated sports world. And there are lots of ways to write that story.

    I'm just saying that this story about this specific blonde doesn't bolster Canzano's argument. In fact, it reads more like easy salaciousness - or, as was said earlier in the thread - another example of "sex sells."
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