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A NYT Lede That Duplicates Wikipedia

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by YankeeFan, Jul 30, 2014.

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  1. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    She obviously plagiarized, as current events show, according to Dick Whitman.
     
    MisterCreosote, Jul 31, 2014
    #61
  2. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    That's not what you're doing in that case. You're changing words just to change words.
     
    Dick Whitman, Jul 31, 2014
    #62
  3. SnarkShark

    SnarkShark Well-Known Member

    Not necessarily. I think "were roommates" is better-phrased than "roomed together," but that's just me.
     
    SnarkShark, Jul 31, 2014
    #63
  4. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    What if Montville had written "were roommates"?
     
    Dick Whitman, Jul 31, 2014
    #64
  5. SnarkShark

    SnarkShark Well-Known Member

    If I had wheels, I'd be a bicycle.
     
    SnarkShark, Jul 31, 2014
    #65
  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Montville writes: "In 1945, Williams and Doerr were roommates."

    You write: "According to Montville, in 1945, Williams and Doerr were roomates."

    Plagiarism?
     
    Dick Whitman, Jul 31, 2014
    #66
  7. SnarkShark

    SnarkShark Well-Known Member

    You are insufferable.

    I would say, when in doubt, that passage should be quoted if it is taken directly from another written source
     
    SnarkShark, Jul 31, 2014
    #67
  8. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Otherwise plagiarism?
     
    Dick Whitman, Jul 31, 2014
    #68
  9. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Fixed.
     
    MisterCreosote, Jul 31, 2014
    #69
  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Not to mention that Vogel didn't quote directly. She paraphrased.
     
    Dick Whitman, Jul 31, 2014
    #70
  11. SnarkShark

    SnarkShark Well-Known Member

    I'm not a copyright lawyer, man.

    The most defensible action, in this case, is to quote if you are lifting exact words from another written source.
     
    SnarkShark, Jul 31, 2014
    #71
  12. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Vogel didn't lift exact words.

    Which is why "according to Wikipedia" would have made it not plagiarism.
     
    Dick Whitman, Jul 31, 2014
    #72
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