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9 / 11 Burnout

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Boom_70, Sep 7, 2011.

  1. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    I get what you mean here, but what could the military have done?

    My brother-in-law is an Air Force reservist and his F-16 was scrambled on 9/11.

    Until I attended the ceremony when he became a general in August, I didn't know his unit (the Indiana Racers) was the first military responders off the ground on 9/11 period.

    But the military can't respond to something until they know what to respond to. All they could do was get into the air and get in position to prevent any further attacks. My brother-in-law ended up being one of the fighter escorts for Air Force One.
  2. Magic In The Night

    Magic In The Night Active Member

    I'm glad that we can commemorate this anniversary of that horrible day and how it changed our country. I think it's worthwhile to learn the lessons history has to teach us. And to never stop investigating how this all happened.
  3. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Clinton, too.
  4. Hokie_pokie

    Hokie_pokie Well-Known Member

    I wish I knew how to post a picture of somebody eating popcorn because this thread is about to get either:

    A. Really freaking fun
    B. Locked

    Seriously, you couldn't have taken the high road on this? Obviously the Bush people deserve their share of the blame for basically ignoring the intelligence report "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.," but they were only on the job about 9 months (including transition) and who knows if they would've been able to stop 9/11 even if Bush had put the entire national security apparatus on extra-double secret-high alert after receiving that intelligence briefing?

    I don't think it's appropriate to be partisan about such a horrible event, but if someone were so inclined, they could just as easily point out that Clinton had 8 years to deal with bin Laden/Al Qaeda -- and despite many provocative events linked to AQ, chose to simply lob cruise missiles at him instead.

    So let's be careful where we throw around the "coward" label, please.
  5. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Someone did.
  6. Hokie_pokie

    Hokie_pokie Well-Known Member

    You beat me to the "send" button by a couple seconds, Dick. Apologies.
  7. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

    Burnout? The 800 Patch sites are running from six to 10 stories/galleries each as part of the 9/11 package. You do the math.
  8. shockey

    shockey Active Member

    the post above: ABSOLUTE PERFECTION.

    with every word...

    the first 10th anniversary-related show i stumbled upon was this past sunday's 'outside the lines.' replayed on ensuing sportcenters, it's focus was on the young man from nyack, who wanted to become a firefighter, who worked on one of the upper floors in tower 2 and morphed into Superman, guiding a dozen people to the only avallable stairwell. like rigjt out of springsteen's 'into the fire,' after getting a woman to safety, he went BACK UP THE STAIRS to get more people out.

    his parents and one of the women he rescued were the primary speakers in this piece, directed and/or narrated by n.y.-born actor/director edward byrnes.

    the segment was about 20 minutes long. halfway through, i called out for mrs. shockey and -- voice cracking -- i forced out, 'i don't know how many of these things i can watch this week. i'll be a mess.'

    her simple response: so don't watch. change the channel; nobody's forcing you to watch or read any of it.

    but, i'll admit, it was like looking at the wreck on the highway when you KNOW it would be best to look away. i was riveted.

    now, i certainly won't go out of my way to watch any of the 'specials' the networks run, as they compete -- just like newspapers -- to cover the occasion from every angle they can fathom. like the super bowl. it's what the news media does and is obligated to do. is every piece in good taste or hit the mark? of course not. but there are thousands of stories and angles and millions of people who have not seen or heard or read them yet.

    so they'll pick and choose. or opt to ignore it all.those of you who feel strongly that it's 'enough already' and being forced down our throats have every right to feel that way. as they have every right to hit the mute button or shut the tv completely or now read the newspaper for a few days.

    the oversaturation on this topic ain't changing anytime soon. nor should it, as i opined earlier. with every year there are fresh etes and ears who have never heard this stories before or know nothing of the events. let 'em catch up a bit on what all this fuss about three numbers is.

    this was the largest single day in terms of loss of life in u.s. history. pearl harbor was abnolutely horrific andhistory changing but even that pales in comparison: that was an attack on our armed forces and related personnel; this was an attack on the american public, civilians who have NEVER before had to fear attack on the mainland.

    the reprecussions and stories and educating of our people will last a lit longer.
  9. Lieslntx

    Lieslntx Active Member

    For me, that day was filled with such a personal sadness from another situation that it bothers me to remember the day and make a national event out of it. No matter the sacrifices made by others that day, I find that I simply cannot stand up and shout out in glory for this country on that particular day.

    Sometimes, no matter what is going on in the rest of our country, or the magnitude thereof, there are personal events going on that, unfortunately, trump everything else.

    Maybe the number of people out there that feel like I do are few. But we do exist.

    When the day rolls around, I cry twice, and twice as hard. So, I am OK not making a big deal out of it.
  10. schiezainc

    schiezainc Well-Known Member

    How about the fact that these men and women got up and stood up for our country, stood up for all Americans, to keep this country safe and calm in the middle of an undetermined hell and never batted an eyelash about it?

    It's easy to sit back and say "Well, yeah, only the first responders and passengers were true heroes" but that misses the point. The men and women of our military, the ones that locked down the airports, that evacuated the public buildings, that set up traffic blocks, e.t.c. had no way of knowing that they weren't standing at the next attack site. They had no way of knowing that 9/11 was going to be "limited" to four airplanes.

    They put on their uniform, went to work and provided this country with a badly needed sense of leadership and security with no regard to their personal lives.

    If that isn't heroic, then I don't know what the f*ck is.
  11. Brad Guire

    Brad Guire Member

    My paper is doing a wrap. Why? Management thinks it sells papers. Journalistic value of covering the local angles? There are none. We're in southern Idaho. Nothing happened here. I've seen the story budget. We have nothing unique to contribute. There are no family members of 9/11 here. We have no first responders here. There's nothing here to tie us directly to anything that happened on that one day. This year is no different, but 10 is a nice, round number, so we're going to make a buck.
  12. schiezainc

    schiezainc Well-Known Member

    Along those same lines, we ran a special "9/11" page which was merely a thinly disguised excuse at selling a strip ad to the highest bidder to "commemorate" and "honor" the fallen.

    I put all that in quotes because today I ran two large and lengthy 9/11 stories on my front page (We found local stories involving a member of our local fire department who was a Lt. in the NYFD on 9/11 and another on a man who was a Port Authority pilot and was tasked with flying body bags from the site and search dogs into the site) and, immediately upon seeing this pretty moving package (which featured some incredible shots by the pilot of the still steaming site) my publisher and ads manager both asked "You know the 9/11 stuff has to be on the page with the ad on it right?"

    Luckily, I jumped those two stories on that page and had a third feature related to the event on that page but the idea, the very idea, that my publisher and ad manager would even consider moving them off my front because of some stupid $300 strip ad nearly made me want to vomit.
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