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76-77 Habs -- Is it fair to compare modern teams to them

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Freelance Hack, Jan 11, 2007.

  1. Freelance Hack

    Freelance Hack Active Member

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=johnson_george&id=2727810&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1

    Interesting story on perhaps hockey's greatest team ever -- the 76-77 Habs. But I do question one thing: Isn't it an apples-to-oranges comparison to compare their regular season record to any team from the past 25 years? Back then, games ended in regulation. If they had to go to OT for 12 games, chances are they probably would have lost a couple more games.
     
  2. ondeadline

    ondeadline Active Member

    It's totally unfair. Not only is the points system different, but the dynamics of the end of regulation were different in the '70s.

    The only fair way to do it is to take every OT or SO victory for today's teams. Subtract that from the W column and add it to a ties column, then take away OT or shootout losses and put it into the regulation losses column. Add the points and then compare.

    Even then, I don't know that it's completely fair considering how bloated the league has become and how many easier games there are today.
     
  3. Huggy

    Huggy Well-Known Member

    Goaltending now is light years ahead of where it was then. And it's not just the equipment either. The guys are bigger and far more athletic.
     
  4. I'm just learning the complete history of hockey, but 60-8-12 is pretty impressive no matter the era or talent level. How can you come up with more ties than losses? And only be single digit in Ls? That'll NEVER happen again.
     
  5. Gold

    Gold Active Member

    I remember reading something about the third line on that team, which was the checking a defensive line. That line scored something like 38 goals over the year, and gave up less than that.
     
  6. EStreetJoe

    EStreetJoe Well-Known Member

    Forget about all the points rules changes that exist nowaday (for overtime, shootouts, etc.), just remember in 1976-77 there were no "easy" games because fewer teams back then meant the talent pool isn't as dilluted as it is now.
     
  7. maberger

    maberger Member

    disagree e street: look at smythe division that year -- blues led the division with 32-39-9 record. colorado and vancouver were bad, detroit awful, washington and cleveland (!) terrible.

    not even a handful of good teams then -- boston, philly, maybe buffalo.
     
  8. Gold

    Gold Active Member

    Not true. There was the WHA and there were few talented players from overseas at that time. You also had the thug Flyer teams which made for watching ugly games. Those Canadians were very good and wonderful to watch, but don't overestimate the quality of the NHL at that time.
     
  9. Double J

    Double J Active Member

    Cleveland actually handed Montreal one of its eight losses that year. IIRC, the Barons won 2-1 in a home game that was undoubtedly the high point of the franchise's two years in Cleveland.
     
  10. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    The NHL was awful back then. Because of the WHA, it had way too little talent for too many teams. I think the NHL with 30 teams now is way deeper talent-wise than the NHL with 16 teams back then.
     
  11. friend of the friendless

    friend of the friendless Active Member

    Sirs, Madames,

    Zero Soviets, basically no Euros, Americans believed not good enough to play.

    The mid 70s was the NHL's nadir.

    That said, an amazing concentration of talent in Montreal. Robinson, Savard and Lapointe woulda stood up next to anybody. Gainey a role player. Cournoyer's last best moment.

    YHS, etc
     
  12. DrRosenpenis

    DrRosenpenis Member

    Yeah, I'll be that guy. Who cares? It's hockey.

    Carry on.
     
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