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747 crash caught on camera

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Inky_Wretch, Apr 30, 2013.

  1. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    This is amazingly horrifying.

  2. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    Saw that from a different link earlier today. Story said that on takeoff some of the cargo shifted, throwing the plane's center of balance off and causing it to stall. Don't know how that could be determined so quickly, unless the crew radioed in something. And I would think they had their hands full with other things at the time.
  3. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    That's amazing.
  4. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    What's amazing is the gear gets extended; I doubt that's an automatic response by the plane, but instead a last act by the pilot.
  5. Brian

    Brian Well-Known Member

    Did the guy driving really remain completely silent watching this? I'd put out a string of expletives seven minutes long if I witnessed that.
  6. Iron_chet

    Iron_chet Well-Known Member

    I am not sure they ever got the gear up as this happened at take off. Sure looks like a stall the way the nose pitches up.
  7. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    I wondered about that too. Around 1:15, he lets one fly. But that's it.
  8. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    The gear drops fairly clearly as it levels out in the last moments.
  9. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    I am sure the investigation will go over all this, but that seemed to be an awfully steep climb (almost vertical) on takeoff. A 747 is not exactly a fighter jet -- it's not equipped to rocket straight up off the ground -- and obviously at some point this one didn't have the horses to maintain a stable flight path, and stalled out.

    Is it normal at Bagram (due to possible 'rogue' weapons fire from the ground) for planes to make super-steep takeoffs, to get them out of range of low-end weapons faster?
  10. three_bags_full

    three_bags_full Well-Known Member

    Steep climbs are fairly common for large aircraft trying to clear the mountains 10 miles away after departing from runway 3.

    Not that steep, though. I have a few buddies still there who say the rumor is load shift.

    It wouldn't take much of a shift in aft CG to cause that to happen. That explains the appearance of a steep climb. The loss of only a few pounds on the tail rotor (because it's so far behind the transmission) can cause a Black Hawk to be unrecoverable.
  11. Bamadog

    Bamadog Well-Known Member

    I think the load shifted, causing the stall. A good loadmaster can make or break a transport aircraft.

    And that was one of the worst plane crashes I've ever seen on film.
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