500 workers at Seattle Times asked to take week unpaid

Yeah, we'll pick your cotton.

 

Where did I say I expected anyone to do that?

Or that I would do it myself?

I can't blame anyone who bends over and takes it...nor do I blame anyone for doing so. But I'd admire anyone who told the Times to stick it.

 

hey times, stick it.

 

What is there to admire about somebody committing career suicide?

Nobody will notice, nobody will give a fuck, and the guy will be out of work.

The guy might feel like a hero for a day before reality sets in.

 

It's the principle of the thing.

Why should we pay for the ineptitude of the bosses, who will continue to skate on by and get paid?

I'd admire someone who took a stand. I bet his co-workers wouldn't forget.

 

Because 51 weeks of pay is better than 0 weeks of pay.

 

yeah, we should feel lucky for any bone management throws us despite how hard we work.

 

You guys aren't reading this clearly.

The folks being asked/told to take time off without pay are managers or non-union workers. That means that no reporters, columnists, copy editors or designers are being asked to do so, because they all are union workers.

Basically this means that sections editors and higher are getting the shaft, along with any schmucks that work on the business or human resources side of things.

 

And said business would be......?????

 

Are there certain -- or any -- principles worth quitting over, inconveniencing or disadvantage-izing yourself over, write?

Maybe this isn't a heel-planting moment. After all, at least the Seattle paper isn't docking people pay and expecting them to work on those days anyway. Unpaid time off is better than unpaid time on.

But you are willing to draw some lines in the sand, aren't you, without the particular harshness or unfairness or unilateral change in terms having to affect precisely you and you alone?

 

Problem is, Joe, the middle class has been punched in the nuts repeatedly over the past eight years, culminating with the Confederate Republicans' grab at the groin in the last couple weeks vis-a-vis Detroit, that no one has the conviction -- strength? -- to stand up to big business anymore.

Maybe things change once Obama has been in office for a while and things really get desperate. Who knows.

 

Depends whether you're single or not. Depends whether you have kids or not.

I can think of a few instances, none at my current job, where I would have quit out of principle. I told one of my bosses just that at my last stop on a particularly odious decision of theirs. Sure it was an empty gesture in most ways, but I let them know just how displeased I was.