21 The Movie

I bet Webby and his 19 other identities will be extras.[/sandy]

 

How many books, documentaries and movies will be made about the MIT card-counting teams?

Mezrich has done two books (one on some of the original crew, one on a later group). There've been two or three shows on the History Channel, and now this feature film.

 

The book bringing down the house cant be topped.

If you havent read it, I suggest doing so, even if you aren't a gambler.

There is also a second book by the same author called busting vegas, its just as good of a story... way more intense.

Also they made a documentary about this years ago.

 

It'd be really funny if a bunch of idiot young adults took the movie as a lesson, tried it in Vegas/AC, and were busted one after another after another.

 

Well, you know, technically card counting isn't illegal. It's just something that you'll get the crap kicked out of you for and something that will have you thrown our of every casino on the strip. But hey, that still lets you go inside the shopping centers and boy items to choke yourself on when you realize you've still got four days left in Vegas and nothing to do because everything is a frakking casino!

 

When I first heard about the movie, I hoped it would be about Ed Thorp and Manny Kimmel.
I'm not so hot for this flick. It's the same story the Bio channel or the Hisotry channel shows every night at 9 p.m. only with better looking actors.

 

Don't know if I could handle that much Liza, however scenes with mom and Lou would be entertaining...

 

Happens all the time.
Nobody likes books about how to beat games more than the casinos do.
Every other rube reads a book, takes his $1,200 life savings out of his passbook account as a stake and sets out to beat craps, blackjack, even poker. The casino cornholes him with a cheese grater and pats him on the back on the way out the door.

 

Dumb question, but -- How come these Vegas movies always show the casino thugs assaulting, if not practically torturing someone caught counting?

Counting's not illegal. And even if you give your tacit agreement just by playing that you won't count, that gives them the right to pummel you? It's not like a bouncer breaking up a fight, it's not spontaneous at all.

Is it just that you wouldn't have a prayer of winning a lawsuit in Vegas claiming you've been beat up?

 

An interesting point, and the one which marks the difference between Atlantic City and Vegas.

Vegas casinos are by law treated as private clubs. You are a guest. If they don't want to book your play, they have the legal right to back you off/evict you.

Ay Cee takes on all comers at the BJ tables. That's why by and large, Ay Cee 21
rules are appreciably worse than southern Nevada's.

 

I think it's because most of those movies are set back in the good ole days when the Mob ran Vegas.

And the ones set in current day need to spice things up. Having a security guard come over and ask somebody to leave doesn't make for drama.

 

But do they have the legal right to take you in a back room, sit you down and beat the crap out of you? That's where I'm not following how they get away with it.