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21 injured in Pennsylvania school stabbing

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Batman, Apr 9, 2014.

  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    It was in response to Inky.

    I don't hate the media. We all depend on it. I expect better of it.
     
  2. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I just think that you're off base if you think that nothing differentiates CNN.com from, say, the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal. CNN, in every incarnation right now, is a travesty. There's nothing hypocritical about standing up for the NYT while blasting CNN. It's not because the mainstream media can do no wrong. It's that the 24-hour news networks are, universally, a joke.
     
  3. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    YF, because you criticized my media criticism as spin that enabled us to do no wrong, here, very specifically, is my beef with CNN's latest story, which I have edited for content and context:

    After Pennsylvania school stabbing, authorities and community ask: 'Why?'
    [Ed. Note: AUTHORITIES AND COMMUNITYS ALWAYS ASK “WHY.” NOT NEWS. REWRITE.]

    (CNN) -- A day after a Pennsylvania student rampaged through stabbed and wounded 21 people, four critically, in his high school's hallways,stabbing wildly with two kitchen knives, hints of a motive remain elusive.

    Who is 16Sixteen-year-old Alex Hribal, and what troubled him?

    Hribal
    was charged as an adult and faces four counts of attempted homicide and 21 counts of aggravated assault related to the 21 people he wounded in the attack with two kitchen knives at Franklin Regional Senior High School on Wednesday.

    Some classmates at Franklin Regional Senior High School describe him as having few friends and being quiet, but also as a "really nice kid."

    "This is not a dysfunctional family," Hribal's lawyer, Patrick Thomassey, told CNN Thursday. "They're like the Brady Bunch. These parents are active with their two sons, and we're trying to figure out what happened."


    Murrysville Police Chief Tom Seefeld said investigators haven't yet made sense of the mass stabbing, either.

    "We believe, through the investigation, that this was random," he told CNN's "New Day." "We don't have anybody that was targeted, as far as we know at this point."

    The man who stopped the attacker by tackling him iswas a 60-year-old assistant principal. The administrator, Samuel King, and Hribal are neighbors, living only two houses from each other on the same street who lives on the same street as the alleged attacker. So what led to them coming face to face, not on Sunflower Court, but in the chaos of a nightmarish attack?

    One thread that police are looking into is the possibility that there was a phone threat the night before, Seefeld said. But there was no immediate evidence found to confirm that such a call was made.


    The FBI has seized electronics belonging to Hribal, including a computer and cell phone, and will analyze them for any clues, the police chief said.

    'Happened so fast'

    A doctor who treated six of the victims, primarily teens, said at first they didn't know they had been stabbed.

    "They just felt pain and noticed they were bleeding," said Dr. Timothy VanFleet, chief of emergency medicine at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center.

    "Almost all of them said they didn't see anyone coming at them. It apparently was a crowded hallway and they were going about their business, and then just felt pain and started bleeding."

    One of the victims, Brett Hurt, told reporters Thursday that all he noticed was that a "kid" ran by and hit him on the back.

    A friend who was with him started screaming.

    "I didn't really know what was going on at the time," Hurt said. "It was all kind of a blur."
    As the attacker continued to charge down the crowded hallway, Hurt began to wonder if he was going to survive or die.

    Speaking from the hospital, Hurt said he suffered a stab wound in the back and a bruised lung.
    HeHurt was expected to be released as early as Thursday.

    He reflected on whether Hribal would have chosen the path he did if he had more friends or a better support group.

    "I feel he has some issues he has to work out," Hurt said.

    Hurt's mother said everyone must ask themselves what alienated Hrabi so much that he committed an act like this.

    Another student at the school who witnessed the attack said the suspect didn't utter a word.

    "He was very quiet. He just was kind of doing it," Mia Meixner said. "And he had this, like, look on his face that he was just crazy and he was just running around, just stabbing whoever was in his way."

    Hribal wounded 20 students and a security officer before the assistant principal tackled him.

    A soundtrack of chaos


    Murrysville, with has a population of about 20,000, and is a quiet middle-class enclave roughly 20 miles east of Pittsburgh on U.S. Route 22.

    "We are so small compared to other communities," said Paula Fisher, who left Pittsburgh to move to Murrysville almost 20 years ago. "I came out here purposely to raise my children in a school district that we felt was safe as well as academically sound."

    Recordings of emergency calls were released after the attack provide a soundtrack of sorts to the terror and chaos that played out inside the school.

    "I don't know what I got going down at school here, but I need some units here ASAP," one officer can be heard saying.

    Minutes later, in another call, another official breathlessly details casualties: "About 14 patients right now."

    [Ed. Note: THERE WERE NO CASUALTIES, AND THE OFFICIAL COULD NOT SPEAK IF HE/SHE WAS “BREATHLESS!”]

    Then another call for help. "Be advised inside the school we have multiple stab victims," one of the officers said. "So bring in EMS from wherever you can get them."

    Hoodies as tourniquets

    Students standing outside the school heard its fire alarm go off.

    That probably helped get more people out of the building during an evacuation order, Seefeld said.

    Students were running everywhere, and there was "chaos and panic," he said.

    Student Matt DeCesare saw two students come out of the school covered in blood.
    Then he saw teachers running into the building and pulling "a couple of more students out," he said. They had also been stabbed.

    To stanch the bleeding, the teachers asked the students for their hoodies.

    "We all took our hoodies off and handed them to the teachers to use as tourniquets to stop the bleeding," DeCesare said.


    On Thursday, Seefeld praised faculty members for their reaction. Police meet with them often, he said, and the school has plans in place to react to violence.

    "It all came together," he said.

    Investigators have finished collecting evidence in the school, he said. "The crime scene was quite bloody." About 50 officers from the FBI and local law enforcement agencies worked on the case, he said.

    'I'm not sure he knows what he did'

    Hribal couldn't seem more normal, the way his lawyer describes him.

    "I heard these rumors about being bullied. I don't believe that's true," Thomassey said. "I'm sure that at a certain point, we'll find out what caused this. Maybe there is something that was going on at school that I'm not aware of yet or his parents aren't aware of yet."

    The young man also did not seem to embody the cliche of digitally connected youth.
    According to Dan Stevens, the county deputy emergency management coordinator, Hribal had a very minor Facebook presence and didn't have much experience on Twitter.


    Hribal's lawyer, Patrick Thomassey, said he would file a motion to move the case to juvenile court. And he wants a psychiatrist to evaluate his client.

    "I'm not sure he knows what he did, quite frankly," Thomassey said, adding that Hribal feels remorse. "He's scared. He's a young kid."

    Westmoreland County District Attorney John Peck said argued against bail, saying that there could be no conditions that would protect the community and that Hribal made "statements when subdued by officials that he wanted to die."

    Hribal is being held without bail at the Westmoreland County juvenile detention center. He was treated for injuries to his hands, police said.

    One victim 'eviscerated'

    The students who were hurt range in age from 14 to 17, county emergency coordinator Dan Stevens said. The injuries were stabbing-related, such as lacerations or punctures.

    Four victims were in critical condition Wednesday, including one who was "eviscerated" and may not survive, Peck said.


    [Ed. Note: "EVISCERATED" IS NOT A MEDICAL CONDITION. IF VICTIM IS CLOSE TO DEATH, SAY IT AND MOVE IT UP. IF NOT, STRIKE.]

    The school said that half a dozen prayer vigils were held overnight, and counseling services are being arranged for students.
     
  4. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    The story in these cases is often that we all struggle to figure out why a good, white 16-year-old boy would do such a horrid thing, when we already know why a black 16-year-old would do this -- because he's a dangerous thug.
     
  5. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    And whose fault is that?

    Hint: These decisions usually come from the top.
     
  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Bob, I assume you've been following the story in Indianapolis this week?
     
  7. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    That was one that came to mind, but there are many more examples out there.
     
  8. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    There are no $100 answers on Jeopardy! anymore.
     
  9. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    "Mildly?"
     
  10. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    I would bet there are a few people in suburban Pittsburgh who would question the term "mildly injured." Some in ICU.
     
  11. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Fine, I'll concede that the three (3) people in critical condition out of the 22 assaulted were more than "mildly injured."

    Now, let's try to see the forest through the trees.
     
  12. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    Worse, the people they cover can now count on that partnership.
     
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