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2017 Baseball Hall of Fame Ballot

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Della9250, Oct 3, 2016.

  1. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    Vlad certainly wasn't as patient as Bagwell, but holy crap could he hit the ball. He struck out a lot less than Bagwell and walked a lot less, probably because he's the only player I've ever seen who could swing at a bounced pitch expecting to hit it. I mean, he literally hit pitches that had bounced and still batted .318 for his career. It's really quite staggering.

    I'd most definitely rather have Vlad in my lineup than Bagwell, but the statistical difference is so much closer than I thought it was.
     
  2. Riptide

    Riptide Well-Known Member

    Vlad is the guy I wish I had seen so much more often.
     
  3. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Guerrero was probably more fun to watch, but Bagwell was the one I'd want in my lineup.

    Part of that was things that are tougher to measure in statistics, such as baserunning and defense. Guerrero made a lot of errors for an outfielder and he was a reckless baserunner. I found this article on ESPN.com. It is funny because the writer admits that the statistical analysis is shaky, especially regarding to baserunning, but uses it anyway. I use it with reservations because it does fit what I remember of the player.

    Vladimir Guerrero was one of the worst baserunners ever ... or maybe not
     
  4. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    Freddy Sanchez?
     
  5. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Good thing the rules in place now weren't around for the speed freaks of the good ol days when nobody was taking anything. You would have your very, very small HOF that you are looking for.
     
  6. Joe Williams

    Joe Williams Well-Known Member

    I always assumed his "big sigh" was a relaxation technique or trigger of some sort rather than any sort of "this job sucks" commentary .
     
  7. Riptide

    Riptide Well-Known Member

    I did the same thing. Helps to keep from overcompensating.
     
  8. justgladtobehere

    justgladtobehere Well-Known Member

    I did write "like", but he also never showed emotion after a win from what I recall from his time pitching for the Red Sox.
     
  9. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    Early tracking (12 ballots):

    Bagwell, Raines and Pudge are 12 for 12
    Hoffman and Vlad are 10 for 12
    Bonds, Clemens and Smith are 9 for 12

    8 ballots are the full 10, only one is under seven.
     
  10. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    Apparently the Today's Game Committee will be announcing voting tonight: leaks have Selig being elected to Hall of Fame, waiting on word about others.
     
  11. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    Today's Game Committee puts Bud Selig and John Scherholtz in the Hall of Fame.
     
  12. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    12 Votes Needed for Election
    John Schuerholz (16 votes, 100%); Bud Selig (15 votes, 93.8%); Lou Piniella (7 votes, 43.8%); Harold Baines, Albert Belle, Will Clark, Orel Hershiser, Davey Johnson, Mark McGwire and George Steinbrenner each received fewer than five votes.
     
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