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2011 Cy Young Awards

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by outofplace, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. MankyJimy

    MankyJimy Active Member

    I swear you guys talk about Jetes more than I do.

    Jered Weaver. My Bad.
  2. If I had a vote, I'd give the NL Cy to Kershaw, but I'd give serious consideration to Halladay for dominating while having to pitch his home games in a bandbox while Kershaw had home games in a big park. Halladay's ERA splits: 2.48 home, 2.23 road. Kershaw's: 1.69 home, 2.89 road.

    In the end, Kershaw's 0.98 WHIP is what stands out most ... although Halladay's 1.04 WHIP is awesome, too.
  3. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    I know, which is why I did not offer a serious response. :)

    Manky is best ignored outside of the Jeter thread. The only reason for that thread to exist is for him to post ridiculous crap and for us to respond. On a thread with a serious topic? There is just no reason to engage him.
  4. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    That really is the only reason to consider Halladay over Kershaw, their home ballparks. I still think you have to go with the better pitcher, and in 2011, that is Kershaw.
  5. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    I'm as big a Brewers fanboy as anyone, and Axford has been fantastic this year, but to put him ahead of Ian Kennedy is silly.

    You can make a case based that Kennedy's season in a hitter-friendly park was as good as Kershaw's season in one of the most pitcher-friendly parks in the bigs.

    But it's not like Kershaw doesn't deserve it. I don't think any of the troika of Kershaw, Kennedy or Halladay are bad choices.
  6. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    Only question for me is, does Verlander win the MVP as well as the Cy Young?

    I have to give Halladay a very slight edge over Kershaw. The best way to compare apples to apples is look at the road numbers, and Halladay's was better. Kershaw had a fantastic year and I'm not knocking him.
  7. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    How much have voters traditionally taken home ballpark into account? I know we brushed it off as far as Granderson goes. Is this just owed to the difference between "most valuable" and "most outstanding"?
  8. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    It looks close enough to me that I'd say you could reasonably justify Halladay, Lee and Kershaw in any order, with Kennedy a half-step behind.
  9. Gehrig

    Gehrig Active Member

    Should this come into account?

    Kershaw lost 1 one run game.

    Halladay lost 4 one run games

    It could go either way, I wouldn't be against Roy or Clayton winning the award. Lee should finish ahead of Kennedy in voting.
  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Should Valverde get a top three vote in the A.L. for 49-for-49?
  11. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    The two pitchers with the most wins will win but it won't be because of wins!
  12. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Can't say I'm a big fan of using only half of the season to make the determination, but I can see your point.
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