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2009 World Series of Poker running thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Joel_Goodsen, May 26, 2009.

  1. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    No, you are not wrong.

    But by the same token, he hasn't proven he isn't a fluke.

    He won the thing in 2003 -- six full years ago.

    He has not won another major tournament since. He has finished in the money only six times in world series, european and world poker tour events and made it to only two final tables in that time as well.

    His total poker tournament winnings -- $2.8 million -- he won almost $2.6 million when he won the main event.

    So people think he was just extremely lucky (which he was) and he was a fluke and he's done little to prove them wrong.
     
  2. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    And the stories of his donkey-esque play in the year following his win didn't help.

    He toured every casino in the nation collecting appearance fees, which he'd promptly lose. While he was paying off just about every game he played, the rest of the pros saw the explosion of interest and started working at their games and/or building their brands.
     
  3. GB-Hack

    GB-Hack Active Member

    Seeing as how this event runs through Sunday, not sure how long they'll play on after the dinner break tonight.

    Down to 150 out of the initial 201, so I could see them getting to 100 tonight, 27 at the end of Friday, and the final nine by the end of Saturday.
     
  4. Birdscribe

    Birdscribe Active Member

    Beautiful, Zag. I absolutely can't stand her and couldn't stand her after reading "Positively Fifth Street."

    And to answer your previous question, I'd say Varkonyi was the worst of the lot since '02. I'd also say Jamie Gold is right with him; if you remember, Gold caught an unbelievable run of cards and suck-outs and hasn't been heard from since.

    His poor-man Hellmuth impression aside, I've got a lot of respect for Joe Hachem's play; I'd put him up there with Raymer and possibly Eastgate, although I haven't seen enough of Eastgate's plate after his win last year to solidify that opinion.
     
  5. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    He's John Daly without the parade of ex-wives and Marlboro chimney.

    Some national magazine's gonna tackle this in 2013, finding Moneymaker 10 years after the bracelet grinding away at some mid-level casino, hanging onto the celebrity by a thread and just trying to stay liquid enough to keep chasing big-tournament glory, which for him is never, ever gonna equal his first score.
     
  6. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Agreed. I feel bad for him, because he seems like a nice guy.
     
  7. GB-Hack

    GB-Hack Active Member

    To be fair to Gold, he's been a regular on Poker After Dark and High Stakes Poker since his win, and while he hasn't been great, he hasn't been terrible.

    He was actually on PAD this week, don't know if it was a re-run or not, and was pretty engaging.
     
  8. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    I've said this before - Annie Duke is the Kate Gooselin of the poker world. A self-absorbed, psuedo-celebrity who thinks she is far more important than she is and her act is so tired and trite that you hope someone just kicks her ass on live television........
     
  9. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    A majority of poker players will spend their entire careers losing money and wondering why they can't quite match their big score (which they don't realize was mostly luck).

    At least his was a really, really big one.
     
  10. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    Jesus, Barry Greenstein - gone, gone
     
  11. GB-Hack

    GB-Hack Active Member

    Are they still playing two-hour levels, or are they one-hour?

    The WSOP blog said four more levels before ending today's play.

    Oh, and that table I posted earlier? When they broke them down, it got even tougher. Here's the new line-up there.

    Table 70:
    Scott Seiver
    Scotty Nguyen
    Phil Ivey
    Brett Richey
    David "The Dragon" Pham
    Alan Sass
    Phil Hellmuth
    Bertrand "Elky" Grospellier
    Steve Billirakis
     
  12. JakeandElwood

    JakeandElwood Well-Known Member

    This is one where I wish they would televise more than just the final table.
     
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