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2008 Democratic Front-Runner is ... John Edwards (yes, he's running)

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by EStreetJoe, Dec 16, 2006.

  1. Guy, you're quite correct, but you're wasting your breath.
  2. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    Sheeet, LB . . . don't you know that NOTHING . . . no facts, no acts of conscience, no rationality, no NOTHING . . . can get in the way of the kind of Rove-ian logic that facilitates GOP electability.
    The Law and Order party . . . in bed with Organized Crime for eighty years, and counting. You can't make it up.
  3. It would be the equivalent, if I were you, but it's not.
    I thought we were talking about demographics, not ethnicity or religion. Besides, there are examples a'plenty of fundamentalist scolds with the moral of guinea pigs to cite without generalizing about the states they live in.
    And Lyman talking about wastes of breath is a Christmas gift of hilarity that keeps on giving.
  4. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    I don't understand this part.

    You were mistaken.
  5. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member


    If you're not a Christian, I'm intrigued as to why you're defending us. Thanks, I guess, but remember two things:

    1. Nowhere in the Bible does it say Christians will be socially acceptable. Just the opposite. Any Christian who is troubled by their relative lack of popularity should reread Romans. Any whining about a group of people biased against Christians should be met with a "well, duh." The concept is that uninteresting to me. If Christians lived it all the way out, know this: You'd think they were right out of their skulls.

    2. The criticisms of the religious right are legitimate and should be read by Christians as God convicting us to do better.

    On the divorce rates...

    Typically, the higher the poverty, the higher the divorce rates.
  6. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    I'm annoyed by the hypocricy (which I've defended in other contexts) of knee jerk liberalism and occasionally point it out. I also think you guys get a bit of a bum rap in this country. You're welcome, I guess.

    Although thinking about it, I think that the bigotry is less against Christians, and more against anyone (Muslims excluded) who takes religion seriously as a daily factor in their lives, a group in which I am included, so I guess I'm a bit less selfless than I had previously thought.
  7. If there is one thing more tiresome than the public involvement of fringe Christianity -- which is, by all possible measures, what the premillenarian religious right in this country follows -- it's the relentless cry of oppression, which usually comes couched in language about how "you" would never do this to (pick a group), and usually the group picked is one that actually faces discrimination. ("You'd never do that to the Jews,: is my favorite, because it usually comes from the precincts of American Christianity that has "done that" to the Jews pretty regularly.) It's overdog PC, is all it is. Unseemly, and distinctly unChristian. After all, I have it on directly from the Founder that the gates of hell will not prevail against his church, so I don't think estreetjoe's much of a threat.
    As for the divorce rates, well, I'll take them and throw them at any of the pundit saps who ran their mouths about "red state values" in the 2004 election or any time thereafter.
  8. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    Well, I hope you won't mind if I'm not troubled by being called UnChristian.
  9. I'm grieved.
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