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2-year-old, $60 million Texas HS football stadium falling apart

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Bob Cook, Feb 27, 2014.

  1. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Looks like Allen is gearing up for the 2016 Olympics
     
  2. Mark2010

    Mark2010 Active Member

    If I were a taxpayer in that school district, I'd be plenty pissed at the builders.
     
  3. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Should only cost them $300 million to build an air-conditioned dome to replace it.
     
  4. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    For the love of Christ please tell me this was built with private money.
     
  5. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Frisco is already building one.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000229213/article/frisco-council-oks-115m-dallas-cowboys-practice-facility

    The Cowboys' indoor practice facility will double as a high school football stadium.

    Of course Frisco has somewhere in the neighborhood of eight high schools and only one football stadium that the school district actually owns.
     
  6. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Nah, they'll move to L.A. and share a stadium with the Jags.
     
  7. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    If need be, Allen will simply go back to its old stadium that was too small even when it was a middling 5A 15 years ago, and hike ticket prices to $60.
     
  8. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    Built with bonds approved by local taxpayers in a referendum.
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Pogue Construction is currently building Allen’s $32.5 million service center, which is also being examined. The construction firm has many schools and other public projects in the works across Texas. But Pogue said this is an isolated case.

    What's the deal with the construction firm? Are they getting jobs based on political connections, and not the quality of their work?
     
  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I'd guess there was a bidding process of some sort (whether bidding on projects in Allen, TX is on the up and up is another question). Low bid doesn't mean that quality doesn't count. You are bidding to do the project as specified (quality included) at your best price.

    The football stadium was part of a $120 million bond issuance. From what I understand, Allen is somewhat affluent, but anyone living there will now be stuck paying for this into the future. If, and when, rates increase (artificially suppressed rates that have created skewed incentives have been what made these kinds of boondoggles easy to finance), they will likely end up paying well beyond that $60 million for their structurally unsound stadium.

    It's sad.
     
  11. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Anyone who goes to Texas Motor Speedway should turn right as they leave and check out the football complex down the road a couple miles.

    My guess on this is subgrade concrete during the pour, lack of rebar, or they did not do a proper soil compaction study when selecting the site. Each one of these would have a different person or group to blame.

    Before everyone goes nuts about the cost, the price tag for a new high school can be over $200 million, and, yes, this is way too much money for a field.

    And before we start wringing our hands on the money spent, bond money is not placed into the center of a field and burned, that money is now in the pockets of people who built the stadium, which is not a terrible thing. There were many tradesmen who were able to work thanks to this project. And there is also profit going back to the banks and into the architect and engineering firms who designed this complex. Yes, this was way too much money to a field, but there are also a lot of people who were helped by this money, which is more than you can say if it was in a offshore account collecting interest.
     
  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Ha. Why didn't they make it a $600 million stadium instead of a $60 million stadium and reap 10 times that benefit, then? If they had them work with spoons instead of shovels, surely they could have created 10 times the number of jobs and funneled exponentially more "profit" to local businesses.
     
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