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Gambling Thread

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Songbird, Oct 18, 2013.

  1. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    They also have no-juice NFL sides on Saturdays, as I conveniently found out this morning.
     
  2. Noholesinone

    Noholesinone Well-Known Member

    This is largely a myth that Vegas lines go down to the final buzzer so often. Bettors always remember the games they win on the next to last play.
    I went back and looked at a random college hoops Saturday in January. Of 108 games with posted lines, 27 spreads were decided by the margin of one possession (1 to 3 points) but nearly twice as many (52) were decided by double-digit differences in the spread. (This is why you NEVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER EVER play teasers in basketball.)
    I'm sure somewhere in the vast Internet universe there are similar numbers for entire football and basketball seasons.
     
  3. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    I don't disagree, but there is more variance in college basketball scores. In the NFL, outcomes by 3 and 7 points are by far the most frequent and so of course the spreads are right around there too. You don't get a lot of rocking-chair bets in the pros.
     
  4. exmediahack

    exmediahack Well-Known Member

    I love how Coastal-Kansas is the get out Hawaii game tonight.
     
  5. exmediahack

    exmediahack Well-Known Member

    We all done burning our money thinking the Browns are a value pick?
     
  6. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    Some interesting college football lines up on VegasInsider.
    Can I jump on San Jose State -3 1/2 at Penn State? I don't think Penn State even shows up for that one.

    Sports Betting News and Vegas Odds
     
  7. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    Oof. Just realized the Lions were -2 1/2. So they blow a 17-point lead in the fourth quarter, AND a chance to salvage the win and the cover with a dropped touchdown pass in the final seconds. That's a tough beat right there.
     
  8. exmediahack

    exmediahack Well-Known Member

    For the room.

    First Half lines for Cowboys-Rams.

    One book has Dallas +0.5 -125
    Another has Rams +1.5 -110

    If I put $100 on Dallas and $94 on the Rams, I am guaranteed to lose $14.50 unless it’s tied or Rams losing by 1. Then I win $166.

    Good value?
     
  9. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    You're betting on a very specific outcome in a game with an enormous amount of variance. It's not a ton of money to take a flyer on if you're up a bit and feeling frisky, but I can't see how it's a good bet when there is only one path to winning. It feels like you're hitting on 20 in blackjack just to say you did it.
     
  10. exmediahack

    exmediahack Well-Known Member

    I wouldn’t do it for a single point. But a push on a tie and a win one point is interesting.

    What I’m choosing to do anyway:
    U27 first half. $100 at -110
    O25 first half $75 at +105 at another shop.

    I may play the $20-25 in game. SNF is often under first half.
     
  11. exmediahack

    exmediahack Well-Known Member

    Dallas by 1 at half. Well, shit. But the 27 was beautiful.
     
  12. Dog8Cats

    Dog8Cats Well-Known Member

    Moreover, the books aren't predicting the final margin or the total. Their job is to set numbers that attract equal action on both sides. So, yes, their numbers might very well have semblance of the outcome, but that's not their goal.
    Used to have to edit a "writer" who would frequently use, "Las Vegas thinks Plucky U is eight points worse than This Week's Opponent, but ..."
    Same "writer" also used "chopped liver" as in a metaphor.
     
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