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Both sides are being excessively polarizing? The democrats went out of their way to nominate Joe Biden, who is about as centrist as they come, and the right is still trying to paint him as a radical leftist because that's what they do no matter who they're running against.

The problem is we're only ever presented with two real options and thus the wide spectrum of american politics has to get pigeon-holed into either one thing or its opposite.

 

Voters are on to his act now. Indifference to Kenosha, Minneapolis and Charlottesville. Where's "the greatest health care?" Even his pie-in-the-sky proposals like The Wall and Space Force are nothingburgers, er, nothinghamberders. Obligatory mention of Infrastructure Week and his golf game. It's gonna take more than name-calling to win this time around. And he isn't capable of doing it that way. It'll look like Cartman trying to "make things right" so he can go to Heaven.

 

I think it's true.

 

If you think Biden is a hardline democrat, you’re ignoring reality to set up your polarizing argument. Biden is the classic middle of the road, milquetoast, pragmatic coalition building democrat. He’s only the polar opposite of Trump and the republicans because trump is antithetical to American politics since William Jennings Bryant ran for president. Are there elements of left wing politics in the Democratic Party? Sure. But they are and have been a historical part of the party. There’s always been a union-socialist acspect to the Democrats. But it’s a small part and not even really socialist. The right is now full on fascist. There’s no center right. Biden is full on center left and 30 years ago would be a conservative Democrat.

 

A black and white one, clearly.

 

Doesn't seem all that surprising.

Many voters view the economy through the narrow lens of "am I employed?" and "how's the market doing?"

Right or wrong, Biden is viewed as the candidate Wall Street fears and the candidate least likely to open businesses back up.

 

Joe Biden is not, and has never been and never will be a radical leftist.

Is Joe Biden actually in charge of his own presidency? That's the real question. The three states that probably saw all of the candidates the most - Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada - Bernie Sanders won those states. Then Jim Clyburn tells South Carolina "vote for Joe Biden" and it's pretty much over from there.

Biden was selected by Clyburn and the Democratic establishment to win an election. Once he's in office, does the nation proceed in his vision - or whatever vision he's told to execute?

The question is whether he's in charge. It's the only card Trump has to play really. In the last election, Trump played the "I'm a devil, sure, but I'm your devil" card. In 2020, it's going to be "I'm a devil, sure, but at least I'm my own devil."

 

The Cheers that closed isn’t the old Bull and Finch. That’s still there.

 

Yes, to be fair, even this GOP realizes "Joe Biden is a radical leftist" is a bridge too far and so is running on "radical leftists control Joe Biden." As much as I wish it were true, it's not. Meanwhile, Biden is doing his best to run as a pre-2016 republican.

 

LOL that wacky Don Don with his nicknames. Hiden' ... get it? It rhymes with Biden! And he's saying Biden is hiding!

But not hiding but Hiden'! That is some clever stuff.

 

I'm speaking more of how much people may not want Trump as the Republican candidate -- he's that disliked -- and, likewise, they may not want Biden as the Democratic candidate, either -- he's that unwanted as the candidate. I believe there's a real desire for someone different as the Democratic candidate, and that if there were such a person, there would be much less chance of having happen what a lot of people fear: Trump's re-election. Perhaps it's people just wishing Biden were 30 years younger, but there's something holding back full support of him.

As for party stances in general, the most problematic ones for Democrats, to my mind, concern the raising of taxes, and also, late-term abortions, but those are biggies for a lot people.