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Racist "prom-posal"

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Apr 24, 2018.

  1. Just the facts ma am

    Just the facts ma am Well-Known Member

    Words have different meanings depending upon context. It is remarkable that his has been totally forgotten in the last 10 years or so to the absolute absurdity that someone can lose their job for saying "chink in the armor".

    When for example Kobe calls a competitor a "faggot" he is not criticizing them for having sex with men and therefore it is not homophobic in this context. He is insulting them by saying they lack the traditional athletic masculine values of courage, stoicism in the face of hardship, etc. In this context the word is synonymous with calling someone a "pussy", which obviously is not criticizing a fellow male for having a vagina but again an insult saying his behavior lacked traditional masculine values. As this insult is based on a stereotype it is understandable that gay people don't like the word used ever (except among themselves). Women interestingly don't seem to have a problem with the word pussy or bitch used towards males and they in fact often use it themselves in that context.

    The most extreme example of this is the word "nigger" which when used in "rap" and casual conversation between black people means either affectionately or competitively "my fellow black person". But when Riley Cooper says "I will jump that fence and fight every nigger here" the clear meaning is that he is insulting the security guards for being an inferior "race."

    None of this excuses the stupidity of people who post stupid shit on social media and the stupidity of the outrage of the stupid people who react.
     
  2. SnarkShark

    SnarkShark Well-Known Member

    Good lord.
     
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  3. Buck

    Buck Well-Known Member

    Good thing you slipped those quote marks in there
     
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  4. Buck

    Buck Well-Known Member

    Also words have some agreed upon currency and meaning
    That’s the very basis of language
    You don’t get to decide for yourself what a word means or doesn’t mean
     
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  5. Just the facts ma am

    Just the facts ma am Well-Known Member

    Should they go inside or outside of the period?
     
  6. Just the facts ma am

    Just the facts ma am Well-Known Member

    Meh, I use quotation marks to separate the emotional subtext of a word from its literal symbolism on a message board.
     
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  7. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Let's put things in the proper context. The guy ESPN fired for using "chink in the armor" in a headline put it on a story about Jeremy Lin.
     
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  8. franticscribe

    franticscribe Well-Known Member

    Old man rants! I feel like I am at dinner with my father.
     
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  9. Hermes

    Hermes Well-Known Member

  10. John B. Foster

    John B. Foster Well-Known Member

    [​IMG]
     
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  11. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    I think you meant parentheses.

    CC: @YankeeFan
     
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  12. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    I side with @Dick Whitman in some of this, that occasionally these racist, sexist social media mistakes are meant ironically, especially as in-jokes among a group of friends or like-minded folks who share them as punchlines.

    But many of them are not, and represent only ignorance or stupidity or bad character.

    As a writer, I think I fairly have every word in the language at my disposal.

    As a person walking around, I do not.

    Some words are off limits to me, even in my own home.
     
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