Running NFL Preseason Thread

Herbert Anchovy · Feb 17, 2011

If thread is extraneous, please advise.

This Carson Palmer thing is getting messy. Break up or don't, but stop talking about it.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/16/plenty-of-time-for-carson-palmer-to-change-his-mind/
http://www.cincyjungle.com/2011/2/16/1997930/if-the-bengals-make-a-move-with-palmer-what-should-they-do
http://www.cincyjungle.com/2011/2/16/1997170/peter-king-its-not-over-for-carson-palmer-in-cincinnati

Herbert Anchovy · Feb 17, 2011

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/17/snyders-control-costs-kornheiser-credibility/

Yesterday I noted that Washington Post columnist John Feinstein said he felt queasy by Kornheiser’s instruction that Snyder was not to be criticized on his show. Today Feinstein was a guest on Kornheiser’s show again, and I listened in the hopes that Kornheiser would relent and allow the subject to be discussed. But no: Not a word was spoken about Snyder, who is the subject of a great deal of discussion in other D.C. media over his lawsuit against the Washington City Paper.

Feinstein also appeared on Mike Wise’s show on a station Snyder doesn’t own, however, and on that show Feinstein said Kornheiser deserves the criticism he has received for his refusal to say anything bad about Snyder.

“I think that Tony’s getting criticized for not even talking about this story, and I agree with that, I have told Tony that,” Feinstein said, per Dan Steinberg of the Washington Post. “I’m not talking behind his back. But as I said before, it is his show, and you’re entitled to talk about what you want to or don’t want to, as long as you’re willing to accept the criticism that comes with those decisions, whatever they might be.”

Although Kornheiser was a longtime journalist for the Washington Post, Feinstein pointed out that Kornheiser isn’t a journalist anymore, he just plays one on TV — which some might argue makes it acceptable for Kornheiser to take a paycheck from Snyder, avoid criticism of Snyder and have a chummy relationship with Snyder.

Of course, when he was a journalist, Kornheiser loved nothing more than to pontificate about the standards of journalism and give sanctimonious speeches about why Pulitzer Prize-winning Washington Post journalists were superior to lowly bloggers. That makes it a little harder to give Kornheiser a free pass.
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Michael_ Gee · Feb 17, 2011

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John was wrong to even appear on Tony's show under those conditions. I know they go back a long way, but it was a foolish thing to do. You can't give that kind of crap the credibility you possess, and John of course, possesses one hell of a lot more of it than me, to name a random example.

Herbert Anchovy · Feb 18, 2011

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Bob Sanders: Gone

http://www.indystar.com/article/20110218/SPORTS03/110218005/1004/SPORTS/Jim-Irsay-Colts-release-safety-Bob-Sanders?odyssey=nav|head

http://twitter.com/JimIrsay

Mizzougrad96 · Feb 18, 2011

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I'm wondering what it would take to get Palmer. I don't think he's great, but I think three of the NFC West teams could definitely upgrade with him. Do you think he could be had for a second-rounder?

spnited · Feb 18, 2011

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This should help, but probably won't:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/18/sports/football/18nfl.html?ref=sports

The mediator has a history of supporting unions so you know the greedy fuck owners will never agree with anything he suggests.

Mizzougrad96 · Feb 18, 2011

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The Sanders move had to be made. He's just too injury-prone.

Herbert Anchovy · Feb 18, 2011

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Mizzougrad96 said:

I'm wondering what it would take to get Palmer. I don't think he's great, but I think three of the NFC West teams could definitely upgrade with him. Do you think he could be had for a second-rounder?
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If San Francisco is going to stick with a WCO, Kolb already has experience running it. He also wants out, is younger, healthier and would be cheaper to come by. Palmer is in the top 20 for career passer rating (86.9), and has only played for two winning teams -- and it's hard to say he's in the upper crust of the league now.

outofplace · Feb 18, 2011

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Lee Jackson Beauregard said:

Mizzougrad96 said:

I'm wondering what it would take to get Palmer. I don't think he's great, but I think three of the NFC West teams could definitely upgrade with him. Do you think he could be had for a second-rounder?
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If San Francisco is going to stick with a WCO, Kolb already has experience running it. He also wants out, is younger, healthier and would be cheaper to come by. Palmer is in the top 20 for career passer rating (86.9), and has only played for two winning teams -- and it's hard to say he's in the upper crust of the league now.
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He isn't and hasn't been for a while. Palmer was right up there with the best quarterbacks in the NFL four or five years ago, but then the injuries piled up and he has never gotten back close to his old level.

Herbert Anchovy · Feb 18, 2011

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He has excellent numbers. Better than a lot of QBs that are and have been propped up.

Sam Mills 51 · Feb 18, 2011

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Mizzougrad96 said:

I'm wondering what it would take to get Palmer. I don't think he's great, but I think three of the NFC West teams could definitely upgrade with him. Do you think he could be had for a second-rounder?
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At least one team in the NFC South could use Carson Palmer, too. But it won't be a second-rounder - that got dealt last year.

outofplace · Feb 19, 2011

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http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11049/1126356-100.stm

Assuming there is still a Franchise tag in the next CBA, the Steelers make it official that Lamarr Woodley would get it for 2011.

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