Joe Schad

Ace · Jun 14, 2010

Shaggy said:

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VJ said:

Chip Brown is simply repeating whatever he's told by the Texas AD that suits the school's needs at the time.

He floats the Big 12 to Pac-10 rumor to try and force Nebraska and Colorado out of the conference, then floats the "saving the Big 12" angle to make Texas look like the conquering hero. Meanwhile, the school winds up with a huge TV deal, still has the disparity in TV revenue that existed before, and looks like it's the one to thank for the Big 12 still being together. Not to mention there are now 2 less schools that Texas needs to share its TV revenue with. Oh and it can still start its own TV network.

It's actually quite brilliant by the Texas AD, but that doesn't mean what Chip Brown has done is great reporting. He simply repeats what he's told by the university. Congrats, that takes a lot of hard work to be a mouthpiece for one source.

There's a reason Rivals reporters often break news. It's because they get it straight from the athletic department and it stays on message. Same reason they get recruiting breaking news. Because it's positive news.
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Yeah. I don't know about Chip Brown, per se.

But slobbering about the breaking stories that -- at best -- come from one anonymous source that is floating something for his/her own purposes is not necessarily great, good or even accurate reporting.
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Let's not start drinking haterade. We would all love to be the Texas mouthpiece, because Texas is calling the shots here and that can't be denied.

Chip Brown is in a place that we would all dream to be in.
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Yeah. He's in a good spot. Not exactly Woodstein and Burnwood work, though.
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I won't disagree. But 5-6 schools are basically going to do whatever Texas decides to do. So if you can get someone at the very top of the Texas food chain to tell you what they're thinking constantly, you're doing something right.

If some of it was Texas propaganda, well hell, we get played quite a bit to satisfy agendas. Let's not deny that.
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I understand. And being the conduit to the big school is great, but it should be a tool in your arsenal. Not your whole arsenal.

(And I am speaking in general.)
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I hope you are speaking general, because we have no idea what's in Chip's arsenel. I'm sure a lot of his stuff is coming from his UT source, but all of it? Do we know?
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Well, I said I was.

It seems that was passes as great reporting now wouldn't have been printed in most papers a few years ago. Maybe that's good. Maybe not.

Shaggy · Jun 14, 2010

Ace said:

Shaggy said:

Ace said:

Shaggy said:

Ace said:

Shaggy said:

Ace said:

VJ said:

Chip Brown is simply repeating whatever he's told by the Texas AD that suits the school's needs at the time.

He floats the Big 12 to Pac-10 rumor to try and force Nebraska and Colorado out of the conference, then floats the "saving the Big 12" angle to make Texas look like the conquering hero. Meanwhile, the school winds up with a huge TV deal, still has the disparity in TV revenue that existed before, and looks like it's the one to thank for the Big 12 still being together. Not to mention there are now 2 less schools that Texas needs to share its TV revenue with. Oh and it can still start its own TV network.

It's actually quite brilliant by the Texas AD, but that doesn't mean what Chip Brown has done is great reporting. He simply repeats what he's told by the university. Congrats, that takes a lot of hard work to be a mouthpiece for one source.

There's a reason Rivals reporters often break news. It's because they get it straight from the athletic department and it stays on message. Same reason they get recruiting breaking news. Because it's positive news.
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Yeah. I don't know about Chip Brown, per se.

But slobbering about the breaking stories that -- at best -- come from one anonymous source that is floating something for his/her own purposes is not necessarily great, good or even accurate reporting.
Click to expand...

Let's not start drinking haterade. We would all love to be the Texas mouthpiece, because Texas is calling the shots here and that can't be denied.

Chip Brown is in a place that we would all dream to be in.
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Yeah. He's in a good spot. Not exactly Woodstein and Burnwood work, though.
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I won't disagree. But 5-6 schools are basically going to do whatever Texas decides to do. So if you can get someone at the very top of the Texas food chain to tell you what they're thinking constantly, you're doing something right.

If some of it was Texas propaganda, well hell, we get played quite a bit to satisfy agendas. Let's not deny that.
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I understand. And being the conduit to the big school is great, but it should be a tool in your arsenal. Not your whole arsenal.

(And I am speaking in general.)
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I hope you are speaking general, because we have no idea what's in Chip's arsenel. I'm sure a lot of his stuff is coming from his UT source, but all of it? Do we know?
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Well, I said I was.

It seems that was passes as great reporting now wouldn't have been printed in most papers a few years ago.
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That's a good point.

Point of Order · Jun 14, 2010

Boy Cries Wolf! ≠ Wolf Invades Village!

Don't write it like they're the same.

Ralph Waldo Henderson · Jun 14, 2010

Ask people around the Southeast, including SIDs and reporters, about Schad, and ... well I'll let you ask them if you want. The fact he was wrong on this story is nothing new.

Mizzougrad96 · Jun 14, 2010

Shaggy said:

Ace said:

VJ said:

Chip Brown is simply repeating whatever he's told by the Texas AD that suits the school's needs at the time.

He floats the Big 12 to Pac-10 rumor to try and force Nebraska and Colorado out of the conference, then floats the "saving the Big 12" angle to make Texas look like the conquering hero. Meanwhile, the school winds up with a huge TV deal, still has the disparity in TV revenue that existed before, and looks like it's the one to thank for the Big 12 still being together. Not to mention there are now 2 less schools that Texas needs to share its TV revenue with. Oh and it can still start its own TV network.

It's actually quite brilliant by the Texas AD, but that doesn't mean what Chip Brown has done is great reporting. He simply repeats what he's told by the university. Congrats, that takes a lot of hard work to be a mouthpiece for one source.

There's a reason Rivals reporters often break news. It's because they get it straight from the athletic department and it stays on message. Same reason they get recruiting breaking news. Because it's positive news.
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Yeah. I don't know about Chip Brown, per se.

But slobbering about the breaking stories that -- at best -- come from one anonymous source that is floating something for his/her own purposes is not necessarily great, good or even accurate reporting.
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Let's not start drinking haterade. We would all love to be the Texas mouthpiece, because Texas is calling the shots here and that can't be denied.

Chip Brown is in a place that we would all dream to be in.
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Agreed. And with the exception of this story, Joe Schad is in a place where Chip Brown would dream to be.

As Moddy said, Joe's a good guy. The vitriol towards him on this board has always stunned me.

mustangj17 · Jun 14, 2010

Wow. I would sure hate to be Joe Schad today. Hope he doesn't read this.

imjustagirl · Jun 14, 2010

I don't know Joe Schad as well as Moddy or Mizzou, but he's always been a top-notch guy in my dealings with him. Very nice, very kind. I can't/won't speak to anything else.

MileHigh · Jun 14, 2010

Tough spot for Joe, but I'd be curious how this went down today in Bristol. Chip has been way WAY out in front of this thing from the beginning, batting about .850 to .900. Then today, you've got your guy -- after a couple of weeks of minimal reporting/source breaking -- saying something the complete opposite of what Chip has. Did no one say before putting this thing on the crawl and on SportsCenter, "Wait, are we SURE about this? It's the complete opposite of the guy who has owned this story." I've been there on big-time stories like this. Won a lot, lost a couple. And was involved, albeit not in a huge way, but involved, in one of the bigger stories last decade. And you learn to ask LOTS of questions and make sure you really REALLY have it.

Kid Presentable · Jun 14, 2010

RT @ChipBrownOB Got bumped off College Football Live today because the producer said, "Joe Schad is now reporting what you're reporting."

podunk press · Jun 14, 2010

I think Joe proved, unequivocally, he had no idea what he was talking about, at least on this issue.

But I don't know if it's necessarily right for us to be calling him out on this. A lot of people were wrong.

Besides, I wrote a terrible story today out here in Podunk, so I'm not going to cast stones.

JRoyal · Jun 15, 2010

With stories like this, I can see where it would be easy to get caught on the wrong side. There were so many moving parts that the story seemed to be changing by the hour if not by the minute. I would guess someone told Schad, "You sure about this. Orangebloods has the exact opposite." At the same time, I'm sure Schad thought his sources were as solid as Chip Brown thought his were. If Schad didn't, I can't see him going with it, or ESPN letting him. Schad reported and he got it wrong. And maybe it's not the first time. But I'm going to bet there are plenty of people casting stones who would've done the same thing in his shoes Monday.

What baffles me is that, if ABC/ESPN people were involved in negotiating the deal that saved the Big 12, as has been suggested, how the hell did someone involved in that not clue their own people in on it? Shouldn't someone have let Schad or someone else know there was a deal that might be in the works and that people who work for the SAME DAMN COMPANY HE DOES might be helping it out?

murphyc · Jun 15, 2010

Shaggy said:

We would all love to be the Texas mouthpiece, because Texas is calling the shots here and that can't be denied.

Chip Brown is in a place that we would all dream to be in.
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Um, no, not by a long shot.

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