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Oklahoma Vows Review of Botched Execution

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, May 1, 2014.

  1. Riptide

    Riptide Well-Known Member

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    Ohio Replaces Lethal Injection With Humane New Head-Ripping-Off Machine

    Seeking a more humane method of carrying out capital punishment, Ohio’s new machine yanks inmates' heads from their bodies using painless, powerful robotic claws.

    http://www.theonion.com/video/ohio-replaces-lethal-injection-with-humane-new-hea,36077/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:2:Default
     
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  2. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

    Hell, it's Oklahoma - cattle country. Just use that piston-thingy as shown in No Country For Old Men.

    Humane enough for cows, humane enough for death row.
     
  3. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Le's fry 'em up, Ma!
     
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Nearly two hours:

     
  5. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    This is a big fucking deal, if for no other reason than that this was the guy who had earned a news-making stay this week because he wanted to know where the drugs were coming from and who they were manufactured by.

    We cannot administer this punishment fairly, consistently, and within the laws we have settled upon. Even if you philosophically agree with the death penalty, I think that you'd be hard-pressed to defend it, in practice, at this point.
     
  6. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    I wish it would have taken four hours, not two.
     
  7. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    It doesn't matter what you wish, though. The laws are in place, and the courts aren't going to stand for these shenanigans much longer. The death penalty proceeds under the 8th Amendment under a very precarious understanding that it will be carried out predictably humanely. It's not right now.
     
  8. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    The chief judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit weighs in: Stop beating around the bush and do it right. If you're going to do it, don't do it with medicine. Do it with firing squads.

    http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Botched-execution-brings-use-of-firing-squads-5645043.php

    "Sure, firing squads can be messy, but if we are willing to carry out executions, we should not shield ourselves from the reality that we are shedding human blood," he wrote. "If we, as a society, cannot stomach the splatter from an execution carried out by firing squad then we shouldn't be carrying out executions at all."
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Agree with those saying that if the State is going to execute people, they need to be able to do it efficiently. (And, it's really fucked up in this case, since it was a concern going in based on what happened in Oklahoma.)

    But, on another note, I saw the victims daughter interviewed. She was very emotional. And she was very upset that people were concerned about the painful death her mother's murderer endured, and were not focusing on the painful death he had inflicted on her mom.

    Now, let's remember too that this guy was on death row since 1989.

    And, all I could think was that this poor girl, now woman, had to follow this case, and all the appeals, and what not, for 25-years before she could finally get some closure.

    If this guy had simply been sentenced to life without the possibility of parole way back then, the case would have been over. And, while she would never get over losing her mother, at least she wouldn't have to think about this guy anymore, and wonder if he was ever going to face justice for what he had done.

    Everyone would have forgotten about him by now, and no one would be expressing sympathy on his behalf.

    That probably would have been a better outcome for everyone involved.
     
  10. Morris816

    Morris816 Member

    YF brings up an excellent point: Death penalty cases drag on forever, to the point where you have to ask yourself if it's really worth it, especially to the victim's family.

    And it's not just because of lethal injections. You could get rid of those and you'd still have endless appeals, motions and requests, even after the highest court on the food chain decides the case.

    Best to just go with life in prison and bring some closure for the victim's family. It won't bring back their loved one, but they are far less likely to deal with a case that never seems to end and wonder when that day will come.
     
  11. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    This is an often-used phrase I wish would just go away.

    There was a trial that resulted in this man's being sentenced to death. THIS TRIAL focused quite vividly on the painful death he had inflicted on her mom. That trial is over, and the man has been sentenced to die. Therefore, there is no more need to focus on the details of his crime.

    Needs to be Life Without Parole then. The Tate and La Bianca families have been attending parole hearings for almost 40 years.
     
  12. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    I'm sure the daughter feels the same way
     
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