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Morris or Bumgarner?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Oct 31, 2014.

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Who had the more memorable Game 7 pitching performance, Jack Morris (1991) or Madison Bumgarner (201

  1. Jack Morris

    13 vote(s)
    54.2%
  2. Madison Bumgarner

    11 vote(s)
    45.8%
  1. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Bumgarner slinging 5 more 3 days after 9 shutout are major points on his side.
     
  2. Human_Paraquat

    Human_Paraquat Well-Known Member

    If we're talking just the Game 7 performance:

    1. Morris
    2. Smoltz
    3. Bumgarner

    Yes, Bumgarner was on short rest, but those extra four innings mean something. Bumgarner was also pitching with a (slim) lead the entire time.
     
  3. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    In case anyone wants to watch Morris v. Smoltz

    1991 World Series, Game 7: Braves @ Twins: http://youtu.be/BT_MODis138
     
  4. Gehrig

    Gehrig Active Member

    Best game 7 performance I ever seen was from Koufax. Koufax couldn't get loose in the first inning of game 7 (not uncommon for him his last couple of seasons) and walked 2 batters. After that he sailed. Frank Quilici got the only hard hit off of him, a double. He threw fewer and fewer curves as the game went on. As great as Bumgarner's performance was on two days rest- and it was- Koufax' was a level above, and in my opinion, the greatest game 7 pitching performance ever.
     
  5. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    It's Morris if all you look at is one game. It's Bumgarner if you look at the whole performance. It wasn't his five-innings in Game 7, it was the five innings three days after throwing nine innings and being the only of the Giants' starters to go more than 6 innings in any of his starts, and even then, only Hudson in Game 3 recorded an out in the sixth. What Bumgarner meant to the Giants and how he effectively won three games for them is damn impressive.

    You can't pick one over another because they each did wildly different impressive feats.

    I'll throw this out there which was better, the Randy Johnson/Curt Shilling combo or Affeldt/Bumgarner (and I throw Affeldt to keep symmetry and because he got the win in his longest relief outting of the season)?
     
  6. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Until somebody goes 11, a 10-inning complete game win in Game 7 of the World Series pretty much tops any other Game 7 pitching performance in MLB history.

    And if he'd have done it for the Yankees he would have been a first ballot Hall of Famer.
     
  7. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Which Yankees are in the HOF undeservedly?
     
  8. joe

    joe Active Member

    Bernie Miklasz on how Bumgarner's performance stacks up to Gibson:

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bernie-miklasz/bernie-madbum-say-hello-to-gibby/article_2f35d0ba-8eef-5b83-81b0-cc02805cb3da.html
     
  9. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Where did I say that?
     
  10. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    You suggested it when you said that Morris would be in the Hall of Fame if he had pitched that game for the Yankees.
     
  11. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Neither. I'll take Bob Gibson
     
  12. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    If you are comparing just the the Game 7 performances, I think you have to give it to Morris.

    If you are going to compare the entire series or even their post-season accomplishments, I'd rather have Bumgarner. It is a bit early to compare careers given that Bumgarner just turned 24 in August.

    In the playoffs, Bumgarner has a 2.14 career ERA in 88 1/3 innings pitched over 14 appearances, 12 of them starts. Morris has a 3.80 ERA in 92 1/3 innings over 13 appearances, all starts.
     
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