FINALLY! SJ.com College Football Poll -- FINAL POST-BOWL POLL -- PAGE 48

[buckweaver]

I've got UConn at No. 16, but I don't think they're that good. Just can't justify them being any lower with so many 2- and 3-loss teams, is all.

[JoelHammond]

Slappy: Nice job taking us big-time.

My top 10:
1. Ohio State (1)
2. Boston College (2)
3. West Virginia (3)
4. LSU (4)
5. Oregon (5)
6. Arizona State (11)
7. Oklahoma (6)
8. Missouri (12)
9. Kansas (14)
10. Georgia (18)

UConn's at 22 for me, though it probably should be higher.

[Idaho]

We need votes, too. We beat UCLA

[AgatePage]

We need votes, too. We beat UCLA

Morning Diet Coke ... computer screen. Computer screen ... morning Diet Coke.

Damn you

[Xanadu]

1, the ohio state
2, BC
3, kansas
4, arizona state
5, louisiana state
6, oregon
7, west virginny
8, oklahoma
9, mizzou
10, usc
11, georgia
12, texas
13, florida
14, wake forest
15, michigan
16, wisconsin
17, alabama
18, auburn
19, virginia tech
20, kansas state
21, hawai'i
22, cal
23, connecticut
24, clemson
25, boise state

[slappy4428]

We need votes, too. We beat UCLA

Notice how you never see the two of them together ...

[GB-Hack]

I feel shame for double-dipping Michigan.

Beg pardon folks.

[amraeder]

Sorry about that Slappy. I don't even like the Bulldogs and I managed to get them in twice. Sigh...

[amraeder]

I've got UConn at No. 16, but I don't think they're that good. Just can't justify them being any lower with so many 2- and 3-loss teams, is all.

Yeah, that's why I ranked them, but man, they SHOULD be a 3-loss team if the refs had any clue. I'm thinking I should start treating them like a 3-loss team from now on. At least I want to.

[Chi City 81]

I've got UConn at No. 16, but I don't think they're that good. Just can't justify them being any lower with so many 2- and 3-loss teams, is all.

Yeah, that's why I ranked them, but man, they SHOULD be a 3-loss team if the refs had any clue. I'm thinking I should start treating them like a 3-loss team from now on. At least I want to.

That line of thinking got Whitlock roundly eviscerated around here last year. He refused to penalize Oklahoma for its loss at Oregon.

[slappy4428]

By SLAPPY 4428
SJ.COM POLLMASTER

Stuff. Just... stuff (Hey. I'm entitled to have an off week. I celebrated the 10th anniversary of Two-a-Days with Morrie last night and got sick from all the sap.)
-- One poll member misspelled Oregon as "Orgeon." It's as close as Ed Ogreon will get to the top 25 without looking across the field at his opponent.
-- Let me ask a question serious like: How much does TV sway your ballot? What I mean is this: If Tennessee and South Carolina -- a thrilling game between two proving-to-be-incredibly average teams from a conference that doesn't get the credit it deserves -- was the 11:30 a.m. game on regional TV instead of the last ESPN game, how many of you would have put CPF's team in your poll for a win at home where it should win?
-- And if it was Wisconsin-Purdue, would you have done the same thing? Or Boise State-Hawaii?
-- I didn't think so.
-- Kansas eighth and Missouri ninth. Seriously.
-- First person to have his poll done this week? BYH. Seriously. Took him eight seconds too.
-- Got skewered on Doug Segrest's blog on al.com by some fanboy, who took umbrage with the tongue-in-cheek remark about SEC football last week. (People like me is what's wrong with college football, dontcha know) My issue is not necessarily with the quality of SEC football, but the thin-skinned defenders of it -- like this slack-jawed yokel.
Which brings to mind two jokes, neither of which will make him happy this week either:
Q: How many politically correct SEC defenders does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: That's not funny.
Q: How many SEC defenders does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: A light-what now?
-- Nice to see Matt Ryan win the Heisman and a powerspitting contest at the same time. That's the way you want to see your starting quarterback handle pressure. He'll look good in a Rams cap carrying a clipboard.
-- Speaking of powerspitting, it's also nice to see Mark Mangini turning pounds into wins.
-- I know someone who covered the Weber State-Portland State basketball game the other night. He said it might be the only time all season he'll enjoy doing a follow-up story. It had to be tough; all that scoring and none of it involved him.
-- Eighth and ninth. Wow.
-- And finally, it's nice to Colleen Bellotti, her nanny and the rest of the Clampetts handle her son's DUII conviction with grace and class by shooting the messenger. If we had more coaches wifes (or ex-wifes like her), we'd have fewer soccer moms.
Hmmm...


SJ.COM COLLEGE FOOTBALL POLL
10/29/2007
RK. TEAM (1st)              PTS   Last
1. Ohio State  (26)           830   1
2. LSU (6)                       787   2
3. Boston College (1)        783   3
4. Oregon (1)                  716   5
5. Oklahoma                    705   4
6. Arizona State               691   7
7. West Virginia                671   6
8. Kansas                        638   11
9. Missouri                       538   13
10. Hawaii                       506   14
11. Georgia                     495   20
12. Virginia Tech              401   11
13. Texas                       394   17
14. Southern Cal              371   9
15. Michigan                    360   19
16. Connecticut               324   NR
17. Alabama                    263   22
18. Florida                       262   14
19. Auburn                      255   24
20. South Florida              251   8
21. Boise St.                   130   NR
22. Wake Forest              109   NR
23. South Carolina             97   16
24. California                    86   18
25. Kentucky                    81   15

Also receiving votes: Clemson 71; Tennessee 69; Wisconsin 55; Virginia 40; Penn State 15; Purdue 13; Kansas State 9; Texas A&M 8; Wyoming 5; Troy 5; Rutgers 4; Cincinnati 4; Georgia Tech 2; Oregon State 2; Oklahoma State 1; Colorado 1; Illinois 1; BYU 1.

SJ.com College Football Poll committee: Slappy4428 (chairman), Oz, The Good Doctor, Elliotte Friedman, Hockeybeat, Starman, Eagleboy, Hank Scorpio, Sportschick, Mystery Meat, Barsuk, WS, Della9250, Mayfly, Xanadu, dparker85, Gutter, Buckweaver, sxysprtswrtr, Orville Redenbacher, spnited, Idaho, Amraeder, Joel Hammond, Precious Roy, HackWilson191, BYH, AgatePage, Piotr Rasputin, Rufino, Trooper Bari,  OJ1414, Jesus_Muscatel, GB-Hack. (MIA: Precious Roy; Withdrawn: Micropolitan Guy, Beanpole)

[Gutter]

West Virginia wins by 28 on the road over Rutgers, a team that beat the "No. 2" team the previous week, and drops a spot?

Wow.

[buckweaver]

West Virginia wins by 28 on the road over Rutgers, a team that beat the "No. 2" team the previous week, and drops a spot?

Wow.

Don't quite understand that one. WestByGod is No. 5 for me, same as last week.

Also don't know why Oregon moved past Oklahoma, but that first-place vote did it. Either way, the two Pac-10 contenders have a chance to play their way into the top spot, so no worries there.

[Oz]

West Virginia wins by 28 on the road over Rutgers, a team that beat the "No. 2" team the previous week, and drops a spot? Wow.

To Arizona State, which beat Cal this past week. I'm guessing some held off on voting the Sun Devils too high before beating a quality opponent like that, and they have no losses, thus the switch.

[AgatePage]

West Virginia wins by 28 on the road over Rutgers, a team that beat the "No. 2" team the previous week, and drops a spot?

Wow.

Don't quite understand that one. WestByGod is No. 5 for me, same as last week.

Also don't know why Oregon moved past Oklahoma, but that first-place vote did it. Either way, the two Pac-10 contenders have a chance to play their way into the top spot, so no worries there.

That's my Number 1 vote, and it was there last week as well.

And Oregon is up by 11 points. Which means their win over a previously top-10 team carried weight this week. I'd have had to ranked them 13th or lower for my one vote to make a difference.

[buckweaver]

West Virginia wins by 28 on the road over Rutgers, a team that beat the "No. 2" team the previous week, and drops a spot?

Wow.

Don't quite understand that one. WestByGod is No. 5 for me, same as last week.

Also don't know why Oregon moved past Oklahoma, but that first-place vote did it. Either way, the two Pac-10 contenders have a chance to play their way into the top spot, so no worries there.

That's my Number 1 vote, and it was there last week as well.

And Oregon is up by 11 points. Which means their win over a previously top-10 team carried weight this week. I'd have had to ranked them 13th or lower for my one vote to make a difference.

Good point. I suck at math.

And FWIW, the Ducks moved up in my poll, too. Just didn't move ahead of the Sooners, that's all.

[AgatePage]

West Virginia wins by 28 on the road over Rutgers, a team that beat the "No. 2" team the previous week, and drops a spot?

Wow.

Don't quite understand that one. WestByGod is No. 5 for me, same as last week.

Also don't know why Oregon moved past Oklahoma, but that first-place vote did it. Either way, the two Pac-10 contenders have a chance to play their way into the top spot, so no worries there.

That's my Number 1 vote, and it was there last week as well.

And Oregon is up by 11 points. Which means their win over a previously top-10 team carried weight this week. I'd have had to ranked them 13th or lower for my one vote to make a difference.

Good point. I suck at math.

And FWIW, the Ducks moved up in my poll, too. Just didn't move ahead of the Sooners, that's all.

No worries. I'll always forgive math mistakes. We are journalists after all. Or we purport to be, at least.

The Ducks lost the Cal game on that bizarr-o play at the end zone and I really thought they were the better team in that game. They've played the most dominant football I've seen this season, and played a good schedule, hence the No. 1 vote, for those that were curious.

[slappy4428]

Good point. I suck at math.

And FWIW, the Ducks moved up in my poll, too. Just didn't move ahead of the Sooners, that's all.

The Sonners will move ahead of whomever they want... oh. You said Sooners.

[Eagleboy]

Yeah, that's why I ranked them, but man, they SHOULD be a 3-loss team if the refs had any clue. I'm thinking I should start treating them like a 3-loss team from now on. At least I want to.

That may be true, but I think Louisville lost that game three weeks ago on its own by giving up two touchdowns in the fourth.

And from what a friend of mine says, they never found conclusive tape of the Temple call out there, so I'll let it slide. To me, they're a one-loss team that leads the Big East. I gave 'em a ton of points.

[Della9250]

A quick insight on my ballot — 1. Ohio State, 2. Kansas, 3. Oregon, 4. LSU, 5. Oklahoma

Kansas moved up because of BC and Arizona State while Oregon leapfrogged LSU.

Biggest riser — There really wasn't one; Biggest Fall — Boston College from 2 to 11 .
Added to the top 25 — Virginia at 21, Auburn at 23, Florida at 24
Dropped from the top 25 — Purdue, Troy, South Florida

Other notes: I dropped Arizona State to 7 and moved Hawaii to 6, Connecticut to 10 and Boise State to 14 and yes, BYU at 20. It pains be to have Texas at 16, especially the way they've played the last two weeks. I'm also still not giving Michigan the benefit of the doubt, putting them at 18. And I kept Wake Forest in, at 25, despite the loss to Virginia.

[Hank_Scorpio]

Michigan doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt yet. If it wasn't for Michigan State doing it's usual pissing away a win, Michigan would have its third loss and out of the Top 25 poll for good.

[Della9250]

Michigan doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt yet. If it wasn't for Michigan State doing it's usual pissing away a win, Michigan would have its third loss and out of the Top 25 poll for good.

Unfortunately, there are too many teams out there that don't deserve the benefit of the doubt. But then there wouldn't be 25 teams to rank.

[Xanadu]

1,  the ohio state
2, kansas (never in my lifetime did i think rock chalk u. would be so devastating and, score 76 on nebraska)
3, lsu
4, oregon
5, west virginny
6, oklahoma
7, mizzou
8, usc
9, bc
10, georgia
11, texas
12, florida
13, michigan
14, arizona state
15, virginny tech
16, hawai'i
17, auburn
18, clemson
19, boise state
20, wiscy
21, cal
22, alabama
23, connecticut
24, virginny
t25 cincy
t25 tennessee

[slappy4428]

1,  the ohio state
2, kansas (never in my lifetime did i think rock chalk u. would be so devastating and, score 76 on nebraska)
3, lsu
4, oregon
5, west virginny
6, oklahoma
7, mizzou
8, usc
9, bc
10, georgia
11, texas
12, florida
13, michigan
14, arizona state
15, virginny tech
16, hawai'i
17, auburn
18, clemson
19, boise state
20, wiscy
21, cal
22, alabama
23, connecticut
24, virginny
t25 cincy
t25 tennessee

We dont create a tie to add an extra team around here Mister. In the big leagues, we wear sleeves and caps.

[Xanadu]

well, cincy scores 31 in the 1st quarter on the way to humping webby u. a good one. tennnessee seems to be playing tennessee football again, though putting up 59 on louisiana ... monroe? lafayette? can't remember which ... isn't all that tough.

So, put cincy at 25.