FINALLY! SJ.com College Football Poll -- FINAL POST-BOWL POLL -- PAGE 48

[Della9250]

A quick insight on my ballot — 1. Florida, 2. LSU, 3. Oklahoma, 4. Southern Cal, 5. West Virginia.

Top five stayed in same spots, as did Penn State (10) and Hawaii (23)

Biggest riser — South Carolina from 19 to 13; Biggest Fall — Georgia Tech from 18 to 25 and Va. Tech from 14 to 22 (Besides UCLA from 16 to out)
Added to the top 25 — Alabama at 16, Oregon at 17, Kentucky at 21
Dropped from the top 25 — TCU, Tennessee, UCLA

Other Notes: Louisville from 9 to 14; Rutgers from seven to 11 as Wisconsin, Texas, UCLA drop; South Florida from 25 to 20; Nebraska from 12 to 19; Arkansas down a spot to 18.

[buckweaver]

Made my first top-3 change this year: USC overtakes LSU at No. 2. Florida still No. 1.

[slappy4428]

Someone kick Hank Scorpio and OJ1414 in the ass please?

[slappy4428]

By SLAPPY 4428
SJ.COM POLLMEISTER

"OK, my son. Go ahead."�
Forgive me father for I have sinned. It's been -- hell, I have no idea how long it's been since my last confession.
"Only I can say Hell in here."
Sorry Father. But I’ve said a lot worse lately. And done a lot worse lately. I can't help it.
See I'm in this poll for college football. A bunch of other guys and girls are in it and I'm trying to be my own person but it's so hard. I mean not hard in a demonstrably, proveably hard way. But difficult. You know, like watching "Notre Dame try to pass block kinda hard."
"Notre Dame... I see"�
That's the problem. I see too. I mean, I really liked the way Michigan played and wanted to rank them but I couldn't.
And then I look at my picks and see that I've ranked Kentucky? In football? A team with a coach so befuddled that he kicked the extra point up five against Louisville instead of going for two? And Louisville? Don't get me started on them!
"It."
What?
"Louisville is an 'it,'  Cardinals are a 'they'."�
Are you sure?
"I know a little something about Cardinals. Go on."�
Anyway. I keep getting suckered in to these stupid picks in this poll. Last week, I took Tennessee and blammo -- they get beat at Florida by Urban Meyer. I take UCLA -- I mean. You See El Aye against Utah. Bunch a Mormons. Can't play football. Passive and meek, right? And You See El Aye falls faster than Brittney Spears boobies after childbirth. Wait. Can I say boobies?
"Better to talk about hers than man boobies, I suppose. But you've confused the Amish with the Mormons. Amish are easy going."�
Damn skippy they are. Fighting Amish of Notre Dame my wide, white butt.
"That's Irish, not Amish. Fighting Irish of Notre Dame."
My ass. There's nothing fighting about that team. Maybe they need to make a deal with Satan.
"Saban. Don’t you mean Nick Saban?"�
Satan. Saban. Tomato, toemato. That's what really frosts my nuggets, Father. I felt I had to put Alabama in the poll. I mean, the guy jumps ship quicker than Jeebus leaves the tomb. It was like watching Spartacus in Crimson instead of leather or Ben-Hur with elephants instead of horses. I tried to put it off as long as I could, but I gave in to the peer pressure and voted for them in the top 25.
"Who 'them?'"
Alabama. Sorry. What's the difference? He, the, she, it?
"You said it, my son. He the she-it."�



SJ.COM College Football Poll
Sept. 17, 2007

RK. TEAM (1st)           PTS   LAST
1. Southern Cal (26)      885   1
2. LSU (6)                    863  2
3. Florida (3)                821   3
4. Oklahoma                 771   5
5. West Va. (1)             763   4
6. California                  672   8
7. Ohio St.                   628   10
8. Texas                      619   6
9. Wisconsin                618   7
10. Penn State             583   11
11. Rutgers                  543   13
12. Oregon                  461   17
13. Boston College        450   20
14. South Carolina        370  18
15. Clemson                352   19
16. Alabama                263   NR
17. Virginia Tech          259   22
18. Hawaii                   248   23
19. Louisville                246    9
20. Texas A&M             218   25
21. South Florida          189   24
22. Georgia                  159   NR
23. Kentucky               158   NR
24. Nebraska               135   14
25. Arkansas               100   16
Also receiving votes: Georgia Tech 99; Missouri 60; Texas Tech 33; UCLA 29; Boise State 20;  Arizona State 17; Utah 13; Cincinnati 12; Tennessee 9; Michigan State 8; Florida State 7; Kansas 7; Washington 3; Auburn 3; Purdue 3; Indiana 1; Central Florida 1.

SJ.com College Football Poll committee: Slappy4428 (chairman), Oz, The Good Doctor, Elliotte Friedman, Hockeybeat, amraeder, Starman, Eagleboy, Hank Scorpio, Sportschick, Mystery Meat, Barsuk, WS, GB-Hack, Della9250, Mayfly, Xanadu, dparker85, Gutter, Buckweaver, sxysprtswrtr, Orville Redenbacher, spnited, Idaho, Joel Hammond, Precious Roy, HackWilson191, BYH, AgatePage, Piotr Rasputin, Rufino, Trooper Bari, Beanpole, OJ1818, Jesus_Muscatel, Hank Scorpio. (MIA: Huggy)

[amraeder]

OK, I know they beat UCLA (well, UCLA pretty much beat UCLA in that game, but that's another story) but how do the Utes get any votes? They're 1-2 with losses to the Beavers (the I-get-clobbered-by-Cincinnati-Beavers) and Air Force. 13 votes? 1 more than Cincinnati?

[AgatePage]

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Kentucky bandwagon. I'm your driver, AgatePage (I figure since I was the only person to give them votes before this week that I have to lead the way).

By the way, there's free kool-aid in the back. Enjoy the ride, and the complimentary Andre Woodson for Heisman gear you'll find in your seats. The in-ride movie choices are "Glory Road" and Ashley Judd's greatest hit, "A Time To Kill."

However, I must warn you that this bus stops for no one; the only way off is to stagger away from the wreckage once we go over the cliff.

[slappy4428]

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Kentucky bandwagon. I'm your driver, AgatePage (I figure since I was the only person to give them votes before this week that I have to lead the way).

Actually, that's not true. Someone else gave them a vote in the preseason, then abandoned them once it started.

[AgatePage]

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Kentucky bandwagon. I'm your driver, AgatePage (I figure since I was the only person to give them votes before this week that I have to lead the way).

Actually, that's not true. Someone else gave them a vote in the preseason, then abandoned them once it started.

Deserter! Dead. To. Me.

[Tom Petty]

SJ.COM College Football Poll
Sept. 17, 2007

RK. TEAM (1st)           PTS   LAST
1. Southern Cal (26)      885   1
2. LSU (6)                    863  2
3. Florida (3)                821   3
4. Oklahoma                 771   5
5. West Va. (1)             763   4
6. California                  672   8
7. Ohio St.                   628   10
8. Texas                      619   6
9. Wisconsin                618   7
10. Penn State             583   11
11. Rutgers                  543   13
12. Oregon                  461   17
13. Boston College        450   20
14. South Carolina        370  18
15. Clemson                352   19
16. Alabama                263   NR
17. Virginia Tech          259   22
18. Hawaii                   248   23
19. Louisville                246    9
20. Texas A&M             218   25
21. South Florida          189   24
22. Georgia                  159   NR
23. Kentucky               158   NR
24. Nebraska               135   14
25. Arkansas               100   16
Also receiving votes: Georgia Tech 99; Missouri 60; Texas Tech 33; UCLA 29; Boise State 20;  Arizona State 17; Utah 13; Cincinnati 12; Tennessee 9; Michigan State 8; Florida State 7; Kansas 7; Washington 3; Auburn 3; Purdue 3; Indiana 1; Central Florida 1.

SJ.com College Football Poll committee: Slappy4428 (chairman), Oz, The Good Doctor, Elliotte Friedman, Hockeybeat, amraeder, Starman, Eagleboy, Hank Scorpio, Sportschick, Mystery Meat, Barsuk, WS, GB-Hack, Della9250, Mayfly, Xanadu, dparker85, Gutter, Buckweaver, sxysprtswrtr, Orville Redenbacher, spnited, Idaho, Joel Hammond, Precious Roy, HackWilson191, BYH, AgatePage, Piotr Rasputin, Rufino, Trooper Bari, Beanpole, OJ1818, Jesus_Muscatel, Hank Scorpio. (MIA: Huggy)

arkansas still is overrated.

[Mystery Meat]

This happened in the other polls, but why on earth did Alabama enter so highly after nearly blowing a big lead and beating Arkansas by three?

[Tom Petty]

This happened in the other polls, but why on earth did Alabama enter so highly after nearly blowing a big lead and beating Arkansas by three?

because they're the notre dame of hillbillyland.

[Della9250]

The only undefeateds not yet getting votes in our poll are UConn, Air Force and Tulsa.

As for Alabama, I think they got in so high was because right now the gaggle below them doesn't look very good. Of the nine, Five already have one loss, including the team they beat, plus a non-BCS school in Hawaii.  At the very worst, you can make the case they should be at 19 — so 16 isn't that far off (17 points seperates them).

[novelist_wannabe]

Arkansas isn't nearly as overrated as Alabama. And what about Kentucky? They beat a top-10 team that is still ranked ahead of them, while Alabama blew a 21-point lead and frankly was lucky to win at home, and jumps from unrated to No. 16.

What if Alabama loses to Georgia this week? Does the Tide then go back to NR?

To me, this poll, like the others, shows a lot of agreement on who the best nine or 10 teams are, but after that, it's highly fluid. Or, maybe there just really aren't 25 good team out there ...

[Della9250]

The SEC will shake up the poll this week regardless of what happens — South Carolina at LSU, Georgia at Alabama and Kentucky at Arkansas.

Right now, I wouldn't drop Alabama out if they lost to Georgia, but it depends on what happens.

[slappy4428]

I kind of agree with Tom. I think people got caught in the hype early in the game with the big lead, then saw the field goal at the end and forgot/ignored what happened in the middle

[Della9250]

I don't know, a win over Arkansas is pretty good, just like South Carolina's over Georgia (although that was at Georgia). The undefeated teams behind them don't jump out as better than them right now — Kentucky, A&M, Hawaii and South Florida — and I think, for now, they deserve to be ranked higher than the one-loss teams. I would also point out that they killed the patsy they were supposed to and then went on the road in the SEC (I know, Vanderbilt) and won. So where else do they go?

[Tom Petty]

I kind of agree with Tom. I think people got caught in the hype early in the game with the big lead, then saw the field goal at the end and forgot/ignored what happened in the middle

that and arkansas is what, 1-4 in its past five games?

[Idaho]

OK, I know they beat UCLA (well, UCLA pretty much beat UCLA in that game, but that's another story) but how do the Utes get any votes? They're 1-2 with losses to the Beavers (the I-get-clobbered-by-Cincinnati-Beavers) and Air Force. 13 votes? 1 more than Cincinnati?

Wasn't me. Utah will not get votes from this voter until they are 9-2.

[slappy4428]

OK, I know they beat UCLA (well, UCLA pretty much beat UCLA in that game, but that's another story) but how do the Utes get any votes? They're 1-2 with losses to the Beavers (the I-get-clobbered-by-Cincinnati-Beavers) and Air Force. 13 votes? 1 more than Cincinnati?

Wasn't me. Utah will not get votes from this voter until they are 9-2.

Or you get the press guide from your other school -- whichever comes first

[Oz]

The only undefeateds not yet getting votes in our poll are UConn, Air Force and Tulsa.

And for the record, I have not voted for my beloved Jayhawks once this season. Those votes didn't come from me.

[wickedwritah]

Not an ardent college fan, but it seems to me it's the top four, then everyone else. No way teams such as Penn State and BC should be ranked as high as they are, IMO.

[AgatePage]

Not an ardent college fan, but it seems to me it's the top four, then everyone else. No way teams such as Penn State and BC should be ranked as high as they are, IMO.

I don't have a problem with your opinion, but tell me who you rank in front of them?

[buckweaver]

Agreed. I like my top 8 or so. But after that, you run out of good teams real fast. My 12 and 13, who aren't very good, jumped 7 and 8 spots this week because of all the suckitude behind them.

[Oz]

Not an ardent college fan, but it seems to me it's the top four, then everyone else. No way teams such as Penn State and BC should be ranked as high as they are, IMO.

BC has already beaten a BCS team from last year (Wake) and beat a top 25 team on the road (GaTech). Not many teams have that sort of resume three weeks into the season.

And not that it matters to the top 25, but now the Eagles get Army, UMass and Bowling Green at home before going to Notre Dame. They could very well be 8-0 before hitting the tough part of their schedule.

[amraeder]

I kind of agree with Tom. I think people got caught in the hype early in the game with the big lead, then saw the field goal at the end and forgot/ignored what happened in the middle

For WIW, I already had Bama ranked going into this week (they were just outside the top 25 entering the season, in my mind), and they just got bumped up a few spots because people above them lost.
I also had Oregon in my poll to start the season, so no one can call me a johnny-come-lately with them either.

But as others have said, there aren't 25 good teams in the nation, so you end up with a lot of teams you don't really think that highly of in the poll.