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jason_whitlock
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June 25, 2006, 11:48:44 AM »
http://www.suntimes.com/output/mariotti/cst-spt-jay25.html
i guess the sun times is gving jay all the rope he needs to hang himself.
this column is an embarrassing mistake. it reads like the schoolyard bully hiding behind the teacher begging the teacher to stop the new kid from beating him up. i'm just telling you how this reads to the average chicagoan. mike royko is somewhere with his eyes filled with tears wondering what happened to the newspapers he made appear as tough as chicago.
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June 25, 2006, 11:55:53 AM »
If what Ozzie actually meant was "Mariotti is a pussy," Jay just proved the point for him.
What a fucking embarrassment.
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June 25, 2006, 11:57:23 AM »
http://www.suntimes.com/output/couch/cst-spt-greg25.html
Chicago's best columnist writes a brilliant piece.
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June 25, 2006, 12:02:19 PM »
Wow. Jay really comes across as a big fucking pussy there.
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June 25, 2006, 12:17:43 PM »
Agree. That story was a bleeping piece of garbage.
If he was trying to win back some people into his side, he failed miserably.
And I think you're right, Jason, the S-T is giving him the rope to hang himself. If that's the way Jay wants to go, so be it. But he make it 1,000 times worse.
Wow.
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June 25, 2006, 12:18:35 PM »
What a whining bitch.
ATH should be rich, tomorrow.
Nice job, Eddie.
Loser.
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June 25, 2006, 12:24:45 PM »
Jason
Speaking of Royko, he once wrote a column, not maning Mariotti but meant for him, suggesting that a dose of Prozac was called for. Still is.
Imagine the original Mayor Daley calling Royko a fag. Think Royko would have gone to City Hall to see Hizzonner? With Slats Grobnik riding shotgun.
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Just keep cashing those S-T checks, Eddie.
Remember . . . Rick's is bigger.
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June 25, 2006, 12:46:49 PM »
man, that last bit seems like nobody likes this Mariotti guy. At least not many of the players. He says he won't lower himself to the "laws of jockdom," but his whole career is pretty much just that, isn't it?
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June 25, 2006, 12:47:37 PM »
That was terrible. He pretty much admitted he has no gonads.
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June 25, 2006, 12:59:13 PM »
What's that great line in Good Morning Vietnam, when Kraunauer gets fired....something like, 'Sir, you are in more dire need of a...'
Yeah. Like that.
If Ozzie has to go to sensitivity training, Jay should have to go to sense of humor school. A column with some wit and a comedy could have sliced Ozzie to ribbons.
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June 25, 2006, 01:01:18 PM »
Mariotti did try to address an issue. For that I don't see him being a pussy. More than anything I think he's intimidated by Ozzie — some men aren't built for physical confrontations.
Now, if Ozzie told me to get off the field before he kicks my ass, I would have called him a fucking pendéjo and insulted his mother and thrown down the notebook to invite altercation. Call me out and I'll come out. But that's just me. I wish other writers would just defend their honor a little more.
Hey Mariotti, if you're reading this, throw down a little bit. So you get a bloody nose. So what? Punch the pendéjo in the face.
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Embarrassing just to read.
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Quote from: Xanadu on June 25, 2006, 01:01:18 PM
Mariotti did try to address an issue. For that I don't see him being a pussy. More than anything I think he's intimidated by Ozzie — some men aren't built for physical confrontations.
Xanadu--I weigh 115 pounds, about 5'6. Not built for physical confrontation with a professional athlete, and shouldn't have to worry about it. But if it happens, as it happens to many, there are ways to deal with it. Hiding isn't one of them.
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That's why I think he should stand toe to toe with Ozzie. He might need to have a few beers before going to the stadium, but jesus christ, I'd love to see a fight here. Sure, it's a bit old west, but a man sullies your honor, you bring a couple knuckle sandwiches to the conversation.
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June 25, 2006, 01:13:08 PM »
Wow. Mariotti acts like a little bitch in that column. That was disgusting to read.
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June 25, 2006, 01:13:58 PM »
You fight with what you got then. Mariotti probably could have done a better job of using his words to carve up Ozzie, an admittedly easy target. But Blizzard of Oz? Come on, that's just embarrassing to read.
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June 25, 2006, 01:28:37 PM »
Whitlock nailed it, word for word, in the first post on the thread.
Mariotti should have called in sick, which would pretty much fit his gutless M.O.
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June 25, 2006, 01:40:54 PM »
Going in the clubhouse and dealing with players - no matter what the consequences might be - is part of the job. Marriotti is proving he can't handle that. What a gutless wonder.
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June 25, 2006, 01:42:26 PM »
Mariotti's a spineles, worthless piece of garbage. And you don't hear that coming from me too often.
Waaaah!
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June 25, 2006, 01:44:04 PM »
Agree with almost everyone so far -- Mariotti comes across as a whiny, little pussy.
However, let him keep churning out this bullshit. Hopefully, it gets him fired.
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June 25, 2006, 01:44:28 PM »
This is a masters-level example of HOW NOT TO WRITE a column in this situation. I printede this out and put it in my top desk drawer right next to the Jamison's so I can refer to it if I ever geting into limelight-strength trouble with a coach or player.
"Again, if Guillen wants me to join his nightly OzFest charm sessions before games, he and Sox management will have to address and apologize for a history of threatening and unprofessional episodes."
He sounds like Costanza at the car dealership: All I want is an apology and for that man to be fired.
I very well may be wrong about this, but I haven't heard much of an outcry from the Chicagoland gay community about Ozzie's slur, either. Maybe it all comes down to people like Ozzie and don't like Mariotti.
"Let's hope Guillen isn't so pigheaded to blow off the classes. He wouldn't want to downgrade himself from circus act to American pariah."
Yeah, as if Ozzie's in George Bush territory if he blows off a sensitivity class for saying fag.
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June 25, 2006, 01:48:06 PM »
OK, I've been behind the curve on this issue. What's the SJ.com party line? That Ozzie should not be going to sensitivity class? That Marriotti should STFU, and let others wage the battle? That "fag" is that bad, or isn't that bad? Spell it out for me; I really don't know.
(P.S. That was one whiny-bitch column.)
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June 25, 2006, 01:49:38 PM »
Well, my take is that Ozzie should know better than to say "fag" and that, really, a better word choice would have been "pussy," which seems to fit.
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June 25, 2006, 01:49:59 PM »
Quote from: shotglass on June 25, 2006, 01:48:06 PM
OK, I've been behind the curve on this issue. What's the SJ.com party line? That Ozzie should not be going to sensitivity class? That Marriotti should STFU, and let others wage the battle? That "fag" is that bad, or isn't that bad? Spell it out for me; I really don't know.
(P.S. That was one whiny-bitch column.)
With a few exceptions, you pretty much summed it up, Shotty.
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