MORE shootings ... this time in El Paso and Dayton

"I don't pay any attention to trailer-park strippers."

 

@Azrael not to pick, but you keep focusing on .223.

Both of these rifles are .223:


Are they the same?

Both of these guns are the same caliber.



THESE guns are the same caliber.



Pointing to specific ammo isn't an answer.
Fire rate of the weapon is where to look.

 

I understand that there are lots of calibers with lots of different loads with lots of different muzzle velocities.

Supersonic and subsonic.

A Hornaday VMax .223 or Critical Defense FTX is going to perform very differently than a Remington .223 Varmint Load.

 

The VMax is a varmint load. And while I don't have a ballistics chart for all three, I'd guess they're all hitting 3,000 FPS MV at 55 grains of powder.

 

That's why I mentioned different loads.

A 35-grain off-the-shelf VMax and a 55-grain FTX and a 40-grain Remington are all slightly different.

A further part of the distinction, I suppose, is in the bullet and the jacketing.

Again, I understand the main concern being rate of fire, but I also think ammunition types are worth examining.

Johnny Plinker doesn't need access to everything.

 

I wouldn't be dumb enough to use AM.

 

What, you don't want to meet 479 dudes posing as hot 23-year-old women?

 

Trivia time: I posted images of six different guns earlier today. I have fired five of the six, own only one, used to own one but traded it for a guitar (which I ultimately swapped for something else). Which ones?

 

Four hundred seventy-nine chatbots posing as hot 23-year-old women, you mean.

 

Owned the bolt and never fired the lever action?

 

I'd say you fired all of them except the Russian AK. Prolly fired the .50 in the Navy, and I could see you taking one shot with the musket hoping it didn't blow out your shoulder.

The Winchester and the Remington are pretty classic representations of the types.

 

Never fired an AK. I used to own a Winchester 30-30. I have a muzzleloader that I built from a kit. I don't shoot it much any more because it's too big a pain to clean.