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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member


     
  2. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

    I've never done a survey, but I suspect Genesis, the parts of Leviticus they like (ignoring the rest), and anywhere it talks about the patriarch being the unquestionable ruler of all before him.

    I honestly got lured into a conversation with a guy once who went to the big Noah's Ark they have in Kentucky. I was being polite and listening to his story until I realized he was talking about the thing like he'd been to the NASA space center in Huntsville.
     
  3. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    most evangelicals couldn’t even tell you how many chapters there are in Leviticus. Nobody’s reading that book.
     
  4. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

  5. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

    Ohhhhh, I'd say a lot of their ideas come from about 17-22.
     
  6. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    I’m tracking ya. Your impression of evangelicals is that they’re hung up on OT passages that form their political opinions today.

    I’d agree that critics of Christians certainly believe they’re hung up on the OT.
     
  7. Oggiedoggie

    Oggiedoggie Well-Known Member

    I’ve developed the opinion that political positions influence Scriptural emphasis and interpretations more than Scripture is used as the basis for political position.
     
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  8. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

    I don't know if it's so much political opinions as much as sense of right/wrong and their own superiority.
    We also may have different definitions of evangelical.
    I'm talking about the little church back in the sticks with a 20-member congregation where the preacher is just somebody's grandpa. They broke away from the Baptists because the Baptists were too liberal. Although my father-in-law had a doctorate in divinity and spent his career as a Presbyterian minister, Presbyterians might as well not even go to church the way we act! I'm talking about the types who (until they didn't have a choice) wouldn't shop at a grocery store or eat at a restaurant that sold beer. I'm going to hell because I drink, but when I point out Jesus turned water into wine, the answer I get is: "That's just what they called it back then. It wasn't like that ole' wine they have today." At work a few years ago, at Christmas, everyone was given a lottery ticket. One guy wouldn't touch it because "it's gambling." I told him technically it wasn't gambling because he didn't risk the dollar to buy the ticket. I wound up with two lottery tickets.
     
  9. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Yes, sadly this is true. On both sides.
     
  10. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member


    Right. RIGHT. It’s what I’ve been bitching about repeatedly. These New Democrats aren’t maniac liberals; they just appear that way after 30 years of the party being nudged right and made into Republican Lite. The current Republican Party is so far right they’ve fallen off the spectrum.

    Nancy Pelosi is the textbook definition of a limousine liberal.
     
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  11. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Maybe on both sides. 93 times out of 100 you hear it from the right and 7 times from the left. You do hear it from sides, but no where near a balance.

    The right quotes the Bible to justify slavery and the left quotes the Bible to love your neighbor. But you’re right, you hear it from sides.
     
  12. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    They also fall back on "it's the word of God" excuse. Leviticus is not the word of God. It was a lawbook set down by the Jewish elders. Never once have I heard one of them answer, to anyone's satisfaction, why being gay is a sin but selling your daughter into slavery for being disobedient isn't an accepted practice or belief these days.
    We've evolved since then, from an industrial and a sociological standpoint. We don't enslave people, we don't stone people for failing to observe the Sabbath and we don't stone gay people (at least outside of Saudi Arabia).
     
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